Hi I'm a newbie and had this question for u guys... I know apple/ATT checks ur upgrade eligibility before you can order the iphone 4 but at what point does it actually "upgrade" your account and add another two years? 1. is it as soon as you place the order? 2. when the phone is shipped? 3. when you activate the iP4 in itunes? I was just wondering if there was any way around this. I'm guessing the upgrade is tied to the sim card that comes in the box when its shipped or something right? because ppl could just buy a brand new iP4 from craigslist without upgrading... So what i was thinking was going to att and getting a new sim card and activating the iP4 with that one instead of the one that comes in the box. Would that work to make iTunes think its just a new phone and not an upgrade? Hopefully someone can explain to me how it works.... Thanks!