All the death of Mac Pro threads and rumors and whatnot are obviously premature. I don't want to have a debate here about whether or not it's going to happen. Personally, I believe we'll see new Mac Pros soon. What I want to do, though, is figure out is when it would become clear that Apple isn't bringing out a new Mac Pro line if that's what's going to happen. Knowing that, perhaps we can work backwards and figure out when we might expect Apple to start shipping new Mac Pros. I haven't been following the news closely enough with regards to parts and such to figure out what all needs to come together. I'm sure several people here have more up-to-date specific information. Knowing what we know about Apple's past release cycles, what parts we expect Apple to use, and whatever information that's out there about Intel CPUs, NVIDIA/AMD GPUs, etc., what date in the future can we use with reasonable certainty as a hypothetical end date for the Mac Pro line, where either new ones will have already come out, or never will? Are we talking sometime in the next couple weeks? Sometime in June? Even later? I know, I know, it won't be until Apple announces as such, but that's not useful, and I believe we're smarter than that. Let's really dig into history and current information from vendors so we can decide just how much we ought to be worried now, and when we should be worried more. Again, this is not a debate topic over the fate of the line, this is a speculation topic on parts and timing. What are the most likely configurations for a new Mac Pro? When are those parts likely to be shipping in enough quantities for Apple to start building and make an announcement? How long is a reasonable amount of time to wait after Apple is likely to have something ready?