That image does not say where you have put the drive. Doesn't the System disk ship on the ATA66??
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ATA<=100 & 136+GB Drives
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That image does not say where you have put the drive. Doesn't the System disk ship on the ATA66??
I was wrong about the 33
I meant to say the 66
In my 33, i have a superdrive and a cdrw
In my 66, I have a 250gig
In my 100, I have a 80gig and a 120gig
I also have a 160gig, but its connected via a 133 card. Im missing a jumper that I'd need to put the 160 in my 66 bay (it needs to be CS, and if i just use the 133card, it can be master)
and I have a firewire ext 80gig
I meant to say the 66
In my 33, i have a superdrive and a cdrw
In my 66, I have a 250gig
In my 100, I have a 80gig and a 120gig
I also have a 160gig, but its connected via a 133 card. Im missing a jumper that I'd need to put the 160 in my 66 bay (it needs to be CS, and if i just use the 133card, it can be master)
and I have a firewire ext 80gig
well i'll be dammed... thats pretty good proof for me. Like I said in my 137GB barrier post, im pretty anal about this whole hard drive situation in the new DDR PMs, i spoke to apple repeatedly and they constantly say that 120Gb is as large as you can go unless you add an ata-133 card. So i want to hear possitive success stories so that I can be confident in getting the WD 200GB drive in my ata 100 slot.
tyler
I don't know who you spoke with at Apple but there is plenty of documentation on Apples website and in the manuals that come with these new towers that state that they are capable of handling drives in excess of 137GB.
I would have but I don't have time at the moment. If I get a chance I will research it in the morning.
To clarify:
The MDD has:
3 ATA channels (ATA 33, 66, 100)
Support for six drives (2 per ATA channel)
Slots for six drives (2 5.25", 4 3.5")
Additionally, as I read it in my documentation with my MDD, the limitation on drive size (aka the 137GB barrier) is dependent on IDE addressing, not the ATA bus. Therefore, the firmware (or OS) in (at least these machines) has been patched to resolve the addressing issue with big drives, and this patch is not channel dependent. Based on the documentation, the MDD should access fat ass drives on ANY channel. If you have a MDD, rtfm, visit the Apple support forums, and read your technotes.
With 250GB drives, and no optical drives, this means that 1.5TB is now possible in the MDD.
I am unsure, and can't be bothered to research, whether the addressing patch is in firmware, or in the OS, and whether any of this affects machines other than the MDD Pmacs.
As a side note, I see $120GB 7200RPM drives for about $120 all the time, why not buy 4 of these now, for $480, instead of paying a premium for the biggest newest drive? I did, and its lovely...
The MDD has:
3 ATA channels (ATA 33, 66, 100)
Support for six drives (2 per ATA channel)
Slots for six drives (2 5.25", 4 3.5")
Additionally, as I read it in my documentation with my MDD, the limitation on drive size (aka the 137GB barrier) is dependent on IDE addressing, not the ATA bus. Therefore, the firmware (or OS) in (at least these machines) has been patched to resolve the addressing issue with big drives, and this patch is not channel dependent. Based on the documentation, the MDD should access fat ass drives on ANY channel. If you have a MDD, rtfm, visit the Apple support forums, and read your technotes.
With 250GB drives, and no optical drives, this means that 1.5TB is now possible in the MDD.
I am unsure, and can't be bothered to research, whether the addressing patch is in firmware, or in the OS, and whether any of this affects machines other than the MDD Pmacs.
As a side note, I see $120GB 7200RPM drives for about $120 all the time, why not buy 4 of these now, for $480, instead of paying a premium for the biggest newest drive? I did, and its lovely...
It's funny that I know that I have read it in more then one place at Apple.com and in the manual but I can no longer find it. Sorry, I guess I was day dreaming. I do know for sure that they are capable of handling drives in excess of 137GB if you do a search around the bulletin boards here and elsewhere you will find people with very large drives installed.
umm according to macworld's January 2003 issue you can't add these new larger drives to the new DDR PMs Let me quote them
"The ATA/66 and ATA/100 connections used in today's Macs support only 28-bit addressing. So before you rush to buy one of these drives for your Power Mac, you'll need to pick up an ATA/133 controller card."
FTW
Tyler
"The ATA/66 and ATA/100 connections used in today's Macs support only 28-bit addressing. So before you rush to buy one of these drives for your Power Mac, you'll need to pick up an ATA/133 controller card."
FTW
Tyler
yeah i know i can but whats the point of 160GB drive when im looking for at least a 250GB one. I need something large to house my AIFF files.
Do you have any idea if the new Maxtor drives are both ata/133 and SATA or do you have to pick when you buy the drive?
Tyler