ATI 6970 = desktop or Marketing crap again?

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  1. mark28 macrumors 68000

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    Is the ATI 6970m the desktop GPU or an other marketing bull&$^*&#$@ from Apple?

    If it's the real desktop GPU, I'm extremely tempted to get my credit card now and buy the high end 27" model :eek:
     
  2. morty192 macrumors regular

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    it's the mobile variant which is why it has the 'm'
     
  3. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    It is the Mobility version. 960 shaders just like the desktop HD 6850. To be honest it is the minimum for 1080p gaming.

    It is a substantial improvement from the HD 5770. (5850M)
     
  4. mark28 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Oh I see, they put the mobile variant in it. Too bad. Won't order it now then.

    I'll wait for reviews first, still looks pretty good so far :D
     
  5. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The base model is an improvement over the Mobility HD 4670.
     
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    All iMacs had a mobile graphics card in the past. So I guess you'll never be ordering one ever?
     
  8. mark28 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Maybe, maybe not. I'll have to wait for review first now. Perhaps if the Mac Pro gets updated soon, I'll order that one if it impresses me more.If not, maybe I'll order a 27" i7 :)
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but iMac has had the mobile variant of AMD GPUs for a few revisions now, right? I wasn't surprised to see this. I have a 2009 iMac and as far as I know it has the 4850m and last revision it had the 5750m.
     
  10. theking79 macrumors 6502

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    Its a high end Laptop GPU, it ranks about 16th on desktop GPU's i heard, not sure about that one.

    Its a decent GPU anyway, if you want a gaming computer get a PC.
     
  11. MythicFrost macrumors 68040

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    It was advertised as the 5750 but is actually a 5850M which is based off the 5750 IIRC.
     
  12. Jorojr macrumors newbie

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    The 6850/6970m is a very good card. [H]OCP's "real-world, actual gameplay" review shows that it is capable of running a few games (Civ V, F1 2010, Mafia II) at 2560x1440 with decent settings. Games such as BF2 and Metro 2033 run well 1920x1200.

    I was expecting a 6850m, but very glad the refreshes are shipping with the 6970m's.
     
  13. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The 6850M would have been identical to the 5850M.
     
  14. Hellhammer Moderator

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    All aluminum iMacs have used mobile GPUs. I think the 7300GT and/or 7600GT in 24" white iMac was a desktop GPU but I'm not 100% sure.

    5770 if we are accurate (5750 has less shaders) ;)
     
  15. Kendo macrumors 68000

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    Does anyone know how the 6770 on the base 27" compares to the 5750 on the high end 27" July 2010 model?

    It kills me that the GPU isn't upgradeable on the base 27" iMac so I'm contemplating spending the extra $300 for the processor bump (which I don't need) and the 6970 (which I want).
     
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    I'm being lazy today so I quote what I have posted earlier:

    Quite nice upgrade IMO if those numbers happen to be true with iMacs as well.
     
  17. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    There are only two significant GPU upgrades here, from the Mobility HD 4670 to the 6750M and the HD 5850M to the 6970M.

    On the lower end you also get bumped to a quad core from a Core i3. The high end would be only for the GPU.
     
  18. daneoni, May 3, 2011
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    I dunno, you tell me which is more likely to fit in the iMac case

    This

    [​IMG]

    or this

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Mackilroy macrumors 68040

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    You'll be waiting a long time for that…

    I think the new iMacs are very nice machines. It would be nice to see 1GB GPUs in the lower-end models, but I probably wouldn't buy anything other than the high-end machine anyway.
     
  20. Hellhammer Moderator

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    Well, the mobile version isn't exactly small either when you factor in the cooling system which is not included in your pic (to be honest, it's just the GPU, not even the MXM board).

    [​IMG]

    The GPU is on the left hand side.
     
  21. SiskoKid macrumors 6502

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    I have a 24" Dell monitor in a 2006 model Mac Pro with an ATI Radeon 4870 card.

    Will this new iMac high end model have better graphics capabilities or not?
     
  22. Hellhammer Moderator

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    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/304?vs=291

    6970M is an underclocked 6850, should be around 12% slower. It still seems to be an update although the iMac has greater resolution which requires more horsepower too.
     
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  24. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I would not compare the GPU die alone to the entire video card. You are still looking at the GPU itself plus the associated VRAM. It fits on a card.
     
  25. Hellhammer Moderator

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    Only look at the GDDR5 results for the 5850M. I would say the 5850M is actually faster when you ignore those DDR3 and GDDR3 results, which are irrelevant.
     

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