ATI inside next refresh...maybe. AND 9600mGT may be faulty?

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  1. RiCEADDiCTBOY macrumors 6502a

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    Oh boy...this just won't end will it? Word is ATI has a direct competitor against the 9400m in the works - in time for pending refresh...

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  2. goMac macrumors 603

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    This would require Apple to switch to AMD chips... so... probably not.
     
  3. RiCEADDiCTBOY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I actually prefer ATI GPU's, but AMD mobile processors aren't that great compared to intel's.

    Their desktop CPU's are pretty good bang for the buck but not mobile, no.
    And using RS880 means they'd have to switch to AMD processors which is a big no-no.
     
  6. RiCEADDiCTBOY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I get what you are saying but, there is nothing to report that the RS880 can support /or be made to support Nehalem. As we all know money talks and I am more than certain that ATI is itching to bite the hook if it has the chance to take NVIDAs spot. Lately more ATI offerings are taking the place of NVIDA as other companies (example Dell) are phasing out NVIDA gpu equipped computers.
     
  7. goMac macrumors 603

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    Yes, in the past before AMD bought ATI.

    ATI is now part of AMD, and they stopped producing Intel chipsets. The RS880 is already known to only support AMD chips.
     
  8. RiCEADDiCTBOY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well, nothing to do but wait and see. All I know is that if NVIDA is dropped and ATI isn't an option and we go back to Intel graphic solutions...

    ...God I don't even want to think about that...
     
  9. Theclamshell macrumors 68030

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    bad signs!!

    There is an Ati driver download at the bottom of the page!! its a bad warning sign i dont want amd, Ati doesent bother me though
     
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    I do not want to see AMD processors in Macs; I really like Intel's mobile processors a lot better.

    I highly doubt that the 9600M GT GPU's have the same issue. If they did, there would be no chance of NVIDIA staying with Apple.

    Anyway, at first it seems really unlikely being NVIDIA's 9400M is the base of every Mac save the xServe and Mac Pro. However, according to SemiAccurate, the two companies have a horrible relationship. Also, keep in mind that ATI is working on a new GPU that's to be 15% faster than the 9400M...
     
  11. MacAndy74 macrumors 65816

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    Apple already use ATI chips - in the iMac and Mac Pro. ;)
     
  12. goMac macrumors 603

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    Right, but no NVidia chipset. :p

    The RS880 wouldn't work in since it's not just a GPU it's an entire chipset...

    Apple could go back to using a discrete card, but that could get expensive...
     
  13. MacAndy74 macrumors 65816

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    Good point. I just don't understand why Apple went to Nvidia chipsets. My past experiences with Nvidia chipsets (on Windows PC's) resulted in nothing but pain and angst. Apple should have really stayed with Intel chipsets (with ATI or AMD GPU's) IMHO.
     
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    My Intel machine has an ATI card. Is that because it's four years old?
     
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    Four years ago, AMD did not own ATI.
     
  16. goMac macrumors 603

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    It's a discrete card.

    On the new machines, the graphics card and the processor controller are one in the same. Which means NVidia had to make an agreement with Intel to make their graphics card talk directly to the processor. The 9400m is really just like integrated graphics.

    A discrete card is more expensive, but in since it doesn't have to talk directly to the processor, it doesn't have to care what the processor is.

    Apple could go back to using ATI graphics in Intel notebooks, but it would require them to use two separate chips again, one to control the processor, and one to do graphics. Could be more expensive.

    This is why the 9400m chipset may not work with Neleham. Intel isn't licensing NVidia the ability to talk with the Neleham chips.

    Of course back in the PowerPC days everything was a discrete graphics chip, so it's not like it's never been done...
     
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    Ahhh...the good ol' days!
     
  18. Firefly2002 macrumors 65816

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    Lol? I think you'll find Apple shipped computers with ATI CPUs before AMD bought out ATI... and uh... actually they still ship them.

    The difference is that they weren't integrated GPUs, which yeah, can be chipset-specific.
     

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