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Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by sgunes, Mar 21, 2010.
According to this report Apple ordered a lot of ATI Radeon 5750 for the new MacPros: read here.
Actually, that would more likely be for iMacs (and stated as such in the report). If was using Radeon 5xxx parts in a Mac Pro, they would be 5870s.
They speculate that the order is for the iMac but it could be just as well a MacPro option.
An 27inch i7 iMac with the ATI 5750 would be a good competitor to the MacPros. The biggest problem with the iMacs are currently the graphics options.
5750 likely to be the default card
The 5750 is a very possible default card for the 2010 Mac Pro. It is a whole lot better than the GT120, a different ballpark. However I want to see the 5870 as an option and compatibility with my 2008 8 Core system. I can not afford to upgrade the whole system because of the VGA. TBH it still suits me fine and I could sell my gaming PC and maybe upgrade to the 2011-2012 MP when it comes out.
One of the reasons I was afraid to go with the iMac back than or now to the new i7 iMac is the fixed VGA. If OpenCL kicks off this year the 4850 will be outdated and not recommended for OpenCL. Ati admitted that OpenCL performance is limited on 4xxx series architecture on the hardware level. I would be stuck with an otherwse perfect Core i7 iMac whereas my 2008 MP upgraded with the 5870 is still perfect for OpenCL apps.
The 5750 is not suitable for a base card in the manner Apple have historically done things. Too much "waste" in cost, power, temperature, unused GPU power when a good portion don't need any 3D capabilities.
If they continue how they have the last four times then it'll probably be a Radeon 5600 series as the base card and a GeForce 400 series. The other possibility is they don't switch them round this time and maybe we get a GeForce 220 or 230 and the Radeon 5870.
At idle the Radeon HD 5750 is one of the least consuming graphic cards out there, as well as under load. The price also seems to be inline with what other cards have been priced at for the Mac Pro.
Geforce GT 7300 ($100 to $140).
Radeon HD 2600XT ($90 to $150).
Geforce GT 120 (OEM-only product, so not sure about the price, but it is just a rebranded Geforce 9500 GT $89 to 99).
Radeon HD 5750 ($109 for the 512MB version).
This seems to fall squarely in the same price bracket as other products used in the Mac Pro.
The great thing about including Juniper (Radeon HD 5700 series) support for Mac OS X, is the fact that Juniper is simply half of what Cypress (Radeon HD 5800 series) is.
It would also make sense with regards to OpenCL to have a 720 Steam Processor part as the base card in a workstation.
You seem to be looking at it from a buyer's perspective, not a business one. Apple will likely continue to supply a card that costs them the least while offering "enough" performance. The 5750 is a good card in the higher end of the midrange, but Apple haven't used something from that section previously. All the cards that scored better in the temperature and power tests on that link are more likely candidates sadly.
It still doesn't change the fact that ALL of the graphic cards used in the Mac Pro since 2006 has fallen, more or less, into the same price bracket, e.g. around $100.
I suspect that the low end card will continue to be a Nvidia and the BTO will be the 5870. I just don't see them changing that at this point, given what's being offered.
Historically, wants you to have an option from both vendors.
based on price, and performance it is idiotic of Apple not to make the 5670 and 5750 Mac versions.
I agree. They would never use a 5750 in a Mac Pro, thats ridiculous. Definitely 5870. I am definitely wanting at least 1GB RAM in the GPU.