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Atlanta: Three killed in courthouse shooting
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Americans and guns 
The right to bear arms to protect yourself from the other guy with the right to bear arms.
Madness
The right to bear arms to protect yourself from the other guy with the right to bear arms.
Madness
While I mean no offense to Ashley Smith, the hostage who Brian Nichols held captive for hours...
I'm worried that her persistent media coverage is implying a made-for-TV movie in the coming months. I mean it is wonderful that she was able to reason and talk with her captor, but I just fear that she will become a pawn (or rather a willing pawn) in profit mongering.
I'm worried that her persistent media coverage is implying a made-for-TV movie in the coming months. I mean it is wonderful that she was able to reason and talk with her captor, but I just fear that she will become a pawn (or rather a willing pawn) in profit mongering.
combatcolin said:Americans and guns
The right to bear arms to protect yourself from the other guy with the right to bear arms.
Madness
This is in no way a RKBA debate. The suspect grabbed a gun off a Sheriff's deputy, not from someone's unlocked storage area.
Here's a little to-do list for the folks in Fulton County government, and other interested parties who don't wish to be murdered at work:
- Hire only men, preferably over 6'3" and 225 lbs. for public safety positions
- Pay them enough to make it worthwhile
- Train them properly
- Fire any public safety personnel who can't see their shoes while standing, or has sciatica from wearing a gun belt. While this is a rich Fulton Co. policing tradition, it should go the way of Vicki Lawrence.
- Make our justice system colorblind. Secure all persons accused of violent crimes, or with a history of violent crime, with leg and handcuffs at all times, regardless of racial, sexual, or religious background, and double those chains and put a hood on them if they come from a traditionally suspect group regardless of racial, sexual, or religious background.
- Hire judges who believe that criminals of all ages should be punished.
- Cut back on the parade of restrictions placed on people with Georgia CCW permits.
- Save another deputy and judge's life. This suspect should immediately be furnished with two bullets in the back of his head. Trials are benefits reserved for civilization. Send a message that we are not in Colombia (see also...District of)
If this list doesn't make sense to you, volunteer to be placed in a correctional facility for a period of 7 days, and then re-read the list.
- Hire only men, preferably over 6'3" and 225 lbs. for public safety positions
- Pay them enough to make it worthwhile
- Train them properly
- Fire any public safety personnel who can't see their shoes while standing, or has sciatica from wearing a gun belt. While this is a rich Fulton Co. policing tradition, it should go the way of Vicki Lawrence.
- Make our justice system colorblind. Secure all persons accused of violent crimes, or with a history of violent crime, with leg and handcuffs at all times, regardless of racial, sexual, or religious background, and double those chains and put a hood on them if they come from a traditionally suspect group regardless of racial, sexual, or religious background.
- Hire judges who believe that criminals of all ages should be punished.
- Cut back on the parade of restrictions placed on people with Georgia CCW permits.
- Save another deputy and judge's life. This suspect should immediately be furnished with two bullets in the back of his head. Trials are benefits reserved for civilization. Send a message that we are not in Colombia (see also...District of)
If this list doesn't make sense to you, volunteer to be placed in a correctional facility for a period of 7 days, and then re-read the list.
No, smart guns are a really, really, really good idea. There just hasn't been sufficient reason to develop good ones. The technology exists. Certainly, at least, the technology exists to keep someone from quickly firing a gun they've just removed from someone else.Moof1904 said:
mactastic said:
Don't know what RKBA is.
But it i do know that police in America do need guns to protect themselves from the public's right to bear arms.
And as the war of independance was pretty conclusive in its results, and Native Indians don't really threaten the expansion of the railroads....
...then why do Americans still need guns?
Now as a Brit who isn't even allowed to look at a firearm let alone fire one, i would like to one day fire one, but the concept of a handgun (and in rare cases ASSAULT RIFLES????!!!!????) in every other house?
Scary.
i live in atlanta right down the street from where he was caught since its happened thats like all theyve been talking about on the news
Yes, I think there was maybe just a little bit of national media coverage of it as well.jiv3turkey748 said:
I also mean no offense to her, but I'm not going to gasp in surprise when, a few months down the line here, Playboy announces a pictorial featuring Ashley Smith. That seems to be the usual pattern for these kinds of stories.Punani said:
And this months mass shooting is at a Minesota school by a disaffected young kid with access to firearms.
Wonder what April will be?
Wonder what April will be?
I shot with a high powered rifle before. It was in some kids backyard. The kid was wearing a white shirt. I thought about shooting him because I would have loved to see the blood stain such a nice bright, white shirt. But I was sane, so my conscience told me not to shoot him, but seriously, I really wanted to.
wdlove said:
And I know from experience that it's pretty easy to show someone how to shoot a properly cared for firearm.
Saftey for whom? The shooter (particularly one who doesn't care about his/her own life) is pretty safe by virtue of being behind the firearm. Sure it's less safe for those around if the shooter isn't accurate, but do you really think this kid was in any danger because he wasn't aiming all that well?
I would assume that the gun was cared for by the kid's grandfather.
Look, it goes like this: Here's the clip, here's the slide and slide release. Here's the saftey. Here's the trigger, there's the target.
I didn't say I could teach proper shooting technique in 30 seconds, just that I could show someone how to squeeze off a few in that time frame. I don't see how you can doubt that.