I can’t think of anything i’ve ever gotten from the App Store. Even adobe isn’t on the App Store. Nor are things like VLC, superduper, emulators, bit torrent clients. Pretty much anything that makes a Mac Better than an iPad
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Atomic macOS Stealer Malware Can Steal Keychain Info, Files, Browser Wallets and More
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I don't know how these people sleep at night. They deserve to be sent to a desolate island to llve out the remainder of their days.
The app asks the user for permission in a sneaky way, calling itself "MacOS" (note the capital "M" instead of lowercase "m"). Once granted permission, yes, it can read anything — because the user gave it that access.
malware is "malicious software". No, that is not legal.
You mean like Adobe? 🤭
So is I have used Little Snitch to alert me anytime anything wants to communicate w the web, I got it made, right?
This, or Lulu (https://objective-see.org/products/lulu.html) will definitely help alerting you of new outgoing connection attempts (for example if some new app wants to connect out) - providing they are configured in a way to block and prompt by default.
I actually block all by default (including Apple apps) - it is interesting to see which things connect to places (but this will result in lots of prompting just after you enable the outgoing firewall).
You don't need to only install things from the App Store, you just need to use common sense. Installing things from random sources that you have no idea how to verify their legitimacy has been a bad thing since the dawn of malware.
this is why passwords should be user encrypted.
Really means nothing, Gatekeeper basically does the same with notarization
Many apps require authentication before installing.
Yes they do but if you're installing stuff that needs elevation willy-nilly without being sure what you're installing, then it's caveat emptor.
I did not expect to read about something called ‘AMOS’ on MacRumors in 2023…. !
- to users of a certain vintage and flavour that may sound quite… *ahem* basic…
en.m.wikipedia.org
- to users of a certain vintage and flavour that may sound quite… *ahem* basic…
AMOS (programming language) - Wikipedia
Without reading, my guess is:
Once a user downloads, executes and provides their password IT CAN DO STUFFS!
After reading:
Once a user downloads, executes and provides their password IT CAN DO STUFFS!
After reading:
Of COURSE this is how it works.
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Why’s everybody talking about my neighbor’s dog Lulu?
This is the future for iOS once sideloading comes, and many iOS users will not be ready. Not taking a side about sideloading here. Just saying this will happen. Apple needs to step up even more on security for iOS.
And maybe provide much more education? Right now Apple itself provides also no education on proper user habits when it comes to protecting themselves.
And maybe provide much more education? Right now Apple itself provides also no education on proper user habits when it comes to protecting themselves.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Far superior to being a text file or written down in a notepad where a much less sophisticated thief can gain access to all passwords. If you want near-100% security, fully separate password storage from internet access. That means OFF the computer but still thoroughly encrypted for the other kind of thieves.
You’ve got it MORE made if you just don’t
download random .dmg files from the internet,
open those .dmg files,
execute the application IN those .dmg files and
then, when asked for a password, actually supply it.
Don’t do that (and don’t let anyone use your login) and you don’t have anything to be concerned about from this particular thing.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
No, how long have Macs been around? And how long have Mac users been able to get their apps from any source? And how devastating has that flexility been for the majority of Mac people?
Yes, there are cases but relatively few and far between. The App Store is not immune either- occasionally a nefarious app gets through and affects users who downloaded that app. Windows runs on far more computers and has far more viruses/trojans/malware (and far more bad guys trying their best to do this kind of thing there) and yet there are not really that many cases where someone's life is destroyed even in that Windows world due to this sort of thing.
We don't need "security" to scare the masses into embracing a monopoly scenario of buying from one and only one source. No consumer wins when all competition for their business is reduced down to a single seller. I cannot recall any situation in all of history where a single seller does not exploit their exclusive position... until competition shows up and drives down pricing for the same products or services.
Consumers simply need to be smart and make good decisions about who they trust. Will even the smart ones get that wrong sometimes? YES. Does even Apple let a bad app in the App store sometimes? YES.
But no need to cede competitive marketplaces to single sellers out of this type of fear. Anyone that afraid can already embrace getting their apps from the divine, one and only. Everyone else should prefer to hang on to the great power of consumer flexility to shop around and choose for themselves vs. trust one- and only one- seller. There is no consumer win in that scenario... only an illusion of one... much like the illusion that the whole world will be destroyed once people can choose to get apps for their iDevices from sources other than Apple. We've had periods where that has been possible too (jailbreaking) and there was never any story where all who dared buy elsewhere suffered devastation, fire & brimstone.
Again, anyone too afraid to shop from other stores, won't have to do so. They can maintain their illusion of security by continuing to buy from only Apple. However, others may prefer some genuine Capitalism competition, the concept of more of the money we pay potentially reaching those who create what we buy, AND the flexibility to have apps that Apple refuses to allow for any old reason (not always an actual good reason).
IMO: just as we are with Mac apps, we will be better off when there is more than one seller of iDevice apps. And just as we experience with our Macs, the odds in the impending doom & destruction spun by that potential seems farrrrrrrrr overblown. We already know this because our Macs are loaded with the same keychain, the same private information, etc. We simply pretend that it will be different with iDevices for some reason. Why? Mostly because Apple says so. Why? Because there is a LOT of easy revenue in Apple's cut of every single sale in the one and only iDevice store. No exclusive seller of anything EVER wants competition... and will say & do ANYTHING to try to maintain their lock on that easy money.
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Too right! And the same kind of non-thinker that would download and execute random .dmg’s (AND provide their passwords) would very likely see stories and links ALL about ChatGPT, even links to the free sites where they can experience it, then ignore all that and specifically look for a SUBSCRIPTION service for ChatGPT.
It’s a concern but people have very many ingenious ways to get themselves into a predicament and then blame someone else
No one will ever be able to stop stupid from being stupid, try though they might!