I have no doult that AT&T is capable to find out if you are tethering or not, but I don't think they have the man power and resource to catch or monitor all the high data user.
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ATT Says I'm tethering but I'm not?
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Applejuiced
macrumors Westmere
Interesting. My guess is it's the high data usage that is triggering these messages. It also appears that they can't tell if you are actually tethering....this would be good if thats the case since you can just tell them you are using an app that uses a large amount of data. (netflix,Sirius, pandora, etc) and they'll accept your answer.
Sounds like a poker game and if you dont call or do anything about it they will just switch you on a tiered data package and then make plenty of money from you by charging for overages.
Someone posted that he told AT&T that he streams Sirius all day. They said the plan can stay the same since he don't "tether".
Have a good day and thank you for calling AT&T😀
Sounds like a poker game and if you dont call or do anything about it they will just switch you on a tiered data package and then make plenty of money from you by charging for overages.
Someone posted that he told AT&T that he streams Sirius all day. They said the plan can stay the same since he don't "tether".
Have a good day and thank you for calling AT&T😀
Howdr
macrumors regular
Nope on modmyI they have been posting 4.01 4.1 4.2.1 and 4.3 all
It was mywI users
Lots of theories of how
And it's way more then a few, At&t upgraded the system to detect this, it's new and automated
Howdr
macrumors regular
Yep read it
Three here and more on that thread
Even Musclenerd tweeted it
AT&T Cracking Down on MyWi Tethering? http://bit.ly/g6xkoz
-aggie-
macrumors P6
I posted awhile back (maybe a year) that the AT&T bill had different wording (I forget what) for those times on my bill when I was tethering. If I find the post, I’ll repost here.
Edit: here's the post
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10024465/
Looks like it may only be detectable when using a commcenter hack.
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marksman
macrumors 603
You are not paying for the same service twice.
Since my service charge would go up if they did that I do not agree with you. They charge for their plans based on how much data the average person uses on those plans. If they included tethering with them, the average usage would go up, and thus they would charge EVERYONE more for the 2 gigs of data even those who do not tether. I prefer the people who want to tether pay for it, and the people who do not want to pay for it do not have to... I know this is a seemingly hard concept for people to absorb and I am not sure why...
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
The bottom line though is simple. If they included tethering with the data packages they have now, the data price for those packages would go up in price for everyone.
So you can like it or not like.. As someone who wants to tether I am sure you don't care that you only have to pay $5 more to tether while someone else has to pay $5 more and get no benefit for it, but for the people who don't want to tether they get screwed. They don't want to subsidize you and your tethering. What the tethering plan does is allow the people who want to tether to pay for that, while allowing people who do not want to tether to have a lower more affordable cost.
Again, if they included tethering in the 2 gig package, then the cost of the 2 gig package would become more expensive for everyone. Why? Because the average amount of data being used would go up. So everyone would pay more. Again, if they included tethering in the 2 gig package, then the cost of the 2 gig package would become more expensive for everyone.
I don't want to subsidize people who want to tether, and I certainly don't want to subsidize people who steal tethering via jailbreaking. So all of this is good news.
Actually you are getting the water at an All-You-Can-Eat Buffet. The buffet charges $1 for the water, because the average customer consumes .5 glasses of water each visit. So the dollar covers their costs and allows them the profit margin they want. Now you and your friends start coming every day and get the $1 water with refills but dump water all over yourself and on the ground and everywhere. After a week the average usage of water per visitor has gone up to 1.25 glasses per visitor. So now the buffet has to raise the cost of water for everyone to cover the extra usage caused by you and your friends pouring water all of themselves. So now everyone has to pay $2 for access to the water.
I think the problem people have understanding this stuff is they have a complete disconnect on pricing and think the pricing is created in some kind of vacuum that is independent of actual cost. Which is not the case at all. How much data you use, I use and everyone uses has a direct impact on how much AT&T ends up charging for usage. When average usage goes up, AT&T has to either offset that with reduced costs or increased revenues.
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FrancoRumors
macrumors 6502
I agree - even more so with the second half of your statement. If it is true that some of the people that are jailbreaking are using 50 GB of data a month - I now understand why the "paying" public is charged so much for a measly 4 GB/month.
- Stealing sucks -
Oh - BTW, AT&T - Unify my data bill! - You get to decide how much to charge me for data - I get to decide how to use it - Thanks
Sounds like ATT's masterplan to get folks off of grandfathered unlimited data .......................😱
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
I think its more simply to have its customers pay for the feature that they should have been paying for.
Looks like its only high usage accounts.
I rarely go above 2gb and absolutely never go above 5gb, but I tether sometimes, use pandora, netflix stream rarely, etc...
I have received no email, txt, or otherwise.
I rarely go above 2gb and absolutely never go above 5gb, but I tether sometimes, use pandora, netflix stream rarely, etc...
I have received no email, txt, or otherwise.
There are reports of "Unlimited" users getting this notice, even if they don't tether, because they use a lot of data.
einmusiker
macrumors 68040
If this is the case, and I think it is, there could definitely be a class action lawsuit here as they don't have any way to prove tethering, and with Netflix, radio and hulu people can use gobs of data without tethering
It's actually pretty easy for AT&T to tell who is tethering...
All they have to do is run some sort of a packet sniffer and look at the browser agent strings. If they start seeing Firefox, Internet Explorer, or Chrome strings there's no doubt you are tethering.
I applaud AT&T for cracking down on this.
All they have to do is run some sort of a packet sniffer and look at the browser agent strings. If they start seeing Firefox, Internet Explorer, or Chrome strings there's no doubt you are tethering.
I applaud AT&T for cracking down on this.
The Atomic Web browser (an official purchased app) allows me to set my browser ID to anything I want. I use it to avoid Mobile formatted web sites. So this would NOT mean that somebody is necessarily tethering. I have never tethered with my 3GS, but my usage stats would show a LOT of "Desktop Safari", because that's what I set it to. I could also set it to Firefox, IE, etc...
ATT has enough network management software to know who is tendering very easily
Its the other way around, actually. Since there is no 4.3 JB yet, there is no way to unofficially tether on 4.3.
And what if they aren't using a web browser?
It would probably make it easier for them to find out. Somebody at AT&T might scratch their heads when their logs show your iPhone connected to Windows Update
diamond.g
macrumors G5
All the carriers could fix this by making everyone pay in 500MB chunks of like a few dollars. Say 5 dollars per 500MB then allow you to tether and use as much data as you want. That way the folks that don't use a lot of data wont subsidize those who do.
They should also note who is using the most data and give them the best QoS since they are obviously paying more...
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All you can eat buffetts also charge you for additional people sharing your plate...how is this any different?
VulchR
macrumors 68040
Hmm. The ToS refer to 'personal computers', including laptops. What about iPads, which are mobile devices?
I don't feel sorry for anyone getting this text or email. You're killing it for all of us. To the ones that are tethering, you know you're doing it, and suppose to be paying for it. You're not entitled to anything, and no one owes it to you because you believe you can take what you're suppose to be paying for. Your logic has no value. You know what you're doing. I hope these people either get their contracts cancelled or $45 added to their bills. The gravy train is over.