ATV 4 - Local Content / TV Seasons

GreatOldOne

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All,

I've seen a few people ask this question in various threads - but none seem to have been answered... Nor can I find anything on the wider web (not through lack of trying) - But can anyone who has early access to an ATV4 confirm how the local TV show content (i.e iTunes purchases or ripped content accessed via homesharing from iTunes on a local Mac) is presented?

It's always been a bug bear of mine that each individual season of content is shown in the top level listing in TV Shows. Is it the same with tvOS / ATV4, or have they collapsed them so we now see Show -> Season(s) -> Episode(s)?

In the great scheme of things, it's not a deal breaker - But it'd make navigating large collections a hell of a lot easier.

Thanks in advance,

Jason
 
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Scarpad

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All,

I've seen a few people ask this question in various threads - but none seem to have been answered... Nor can I find anything on the wider web (not through lack of trying) - But can anyone who has early access to an ATV4 confirm how the local TV show content (i.e iTunes purchases or ripped content accessed via homesharing from iTunes on a local Mac) is presented?

It's always been a bug bear of mine that each individual season of content is shown in the top level listing in TV Shows. Is it the same with tvOS / ATV4, or have they collapsed them so we now see Show -> Season(s) -> Episode(s)?

In the great scheme of things, it's not a deal breaker - But it'd make navigating large collections a hell of a lot easier.

Thanks in advance,

Jason
especially if Siri's search capability extends to Plex, then I can just voice ask for a specific item, but you're right when there is a lot of content, not even having the ability to jump to a letter is a royal pain
 

GreatOldOne

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Anyone else care to comment on this? I notice that several forum members have posted saying that they've been testing ATV4 'for some time'... Maybe they could answer this?
 

JMEANS

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Anyone else care to comment on this? I notice that several forum members have posted saying that they've been testing ATV4 'for some time'... Maybe they could answer this?
Would really like to know what's what with this as well.
 

mattopotamus

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especially if Siri's search capability extends to Plex, then I can just voice ask for a specific item, but you're right when there is a lot of content, not even having the ability to jump to a letter is a royal pain
I think at the keynote apple mentioned siri only working with netflix, iTunes content, hbo, and showtime......at least at launch.

It seems like it will only work going forward with services that you can buy directly from iTunes. All of the above mentioned can be subscribed directly through apple.
 

TrueBlou

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Unfortunately no one with an Apple TV 4 is allowed to comment on it at the moment because of the NDA, or at least they shouldn't.

But from what's publicly been announced and rumoured we know that Siri will be limited to Apple services and select content partners at launch. However they are apparently going to open this up to developers in the future. So hopefully we'll see Siri work with Plex at some point.
 

CaptTCS

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Unfortunately no one with an Apple TV 4 is allowed to comment on it at the moment because of the NDA, or at least they shouldn't.

But from what's publicly been announced and rumoured we know that Siri will be limited to Apple services and select content partners at launch. However they are apparently going to open this up to developers in the future. So hopefully we'll see Siri work with Plex at some point.
What I would like to know is whether Siri will include the content I have in my iTunes Library on a Mac Mini, networked through Home Sharing.
 

GreatOldOne

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OK - so the reviews are coming out, so I assume the NDAs have expired... And as none of the reviews I've read so far mention local content, can *anyone* with a developer unit now clue us in to how TV seasons are now handled?

Inquiring minds need to know. :)
 

akuma13

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Add me to the list. I would like to know if I can store purchased movies and tv shows on the new Apple TV? I don't have a mac.
 

TrueBlou

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Seasons are still handled the same way for iTunes HomeShare, so far at least. Purchased content in the ITunes TV shows app is broken down into show, season, episodes.

Nothing is permanently stored on the Apple TV, at most it caches whatever you are streaming from iTunes/Homeshare or anywhere else. Unless of course someone makes an app to do it, but considering Apples stance on using space on the ATV, I doubt it would be approved.

Oh, and Siri doesn't work with any content that isn't from one of the supported launch Apps, so, iTunes Movies and TV Shows, Netflix and so on. Other than Apple adding more approved apps for the time being that is how it will stay. They are opening up the API to us at some point in the future, so when that happens expect apps like Plex to get in on the Siri action.
 
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akuma13

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Seasons are still handled the same way for iTunes HomeShare, so far at least. Purchased content in the ITunes TV shows app is broken down into show, season, episodes.

Nothing is permanently stored on the Apple TV, at most it caches whatever you are streaming from iTunes/Homeshare or anywhere else. Unless of course someone makes an app to do it, but considering Apples stance on using space on the ATV, I doubt it would be approved.
Thanks for answering. It's good to know what i'm getting into.
 

beatledud

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Seasons are still handled the same way for iTunes HomeShare, so far at least. Purchased content in the ITunes TV shows app is broken down into show, season, episodes.

Nothing is permanently stored on the Apple TV, at most it caches whatever you are streaming from iTunes/Homeshare or anywhere else. Unless of course someone makes an app to do it, but considering Apples stance on using space on the ATV, I doubt it would be approved.

Oh, and Siri doesn't work with any content that isn't from one of the supported launch Apps, so, iTunes Movies and TV Shows, Netflix and so on. Other than Apple adding more approved apps for the time being that is how it will stay. They are opening up the API to us at some point in the future, so when that happens expect apps like Plex to get in on the Siri action.
WHAT THE HELL! I mean really?! What a simple fix this could be. Just got mine and I can't believe. Screw you guys Apple.
 

bergert

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home sharing including seasons is still there - only NO playlists. It can sort by season (so 3 seasons of the same show show as 3 lines) or by Genre.

I guess I did purchase too many seasons (50?) already - so this totally useless !
To add insult, Siri cannot (!) search content from home sharing; only from iTunes. When I search for "Once Upon A Time" it shows me one one season (of the 3 which I bought) plus additional 8 (or so) movies I did not buy. To summarize: FUBAR.

On aTV1-3 there is an option in settings which turns ON display of playlists, this is missing from aTV4:
http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/tips/comments/enabling-video-playlists-on-apple-tv
In the menu audio&video, Show playlists (OFF by default)

on aTV4 to enable playlists:
Settings->Apps->Computers->Show Playlists (default Music only)
 
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bergert

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good news: home sharing-MUSIC
opens with the familiar menu (aTV1-3)
now playing, shuffle, search, Genius, Playlists (YES !!!)
 

HelixOmnimedia

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Having local content is the main reason I use my current 3rd Gen AppleTV, but today I purchased the new one to see if they had improved the interface/layout or just make that 'local content' side easier to navigate.


Your own TV Shows still appear in the same design layout and menu as previous generations - just updated colours and font. (see the first attached image)
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Needless to say I'm very disappointed.

If your own show appeared like they do when searching for them in iTunes then it wouldn't be so bad (see second pic).
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