While I would like the remote app to function again, the only password I entered on the AppleTV was my iTunes password. All the apps for streaming services made me authorize on the web using the on-screen code provided. This made typing my Comcast password easy for me since I used my Macbook Pro for that.
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ATV 4 - Terrible experience
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While I would like the remote app to function again, the only password I entered on the AppleTV was my iTunes password. All the apps for streaming services made me authorize on the web using the on-screen code provided. This made typing my Comcast password easy for me since I used my Macbook Pro for that.
Debatable, in my experience it's well below what a keyboard would deliver. Even 1 mistake (which happens constantly) takes a lot longer to fix than having a keyboard and entering it correctly the first time.
The only applicable scenario where its better it's my opinion is driving. Which is a victory by default given you can't (shouldn't) use a keyboard there.
Netflix doesn't do that and neither does Plex, just to name two off the top of my head.
As I explained, because they are pushing for multiplayer experiences. This was a highlight of the reveal. I have no use for multiple Siri Remotes, especially at $80 each. Yet I desire to have the shared exeriance shown during the Keynote. IMHO the cleanest way to accomplish this is via a Remote app that will work cross app. Everybody has a phone with all of the required sensors.
They already have a half baked solution by allowing developers to use phones running dedicated app as controllers. But this feels redundant when each app has to do it independently. This will get more frustrating if I have to have many large apps installed.
How often do you enter your passwords into the apple tv and how many apps need it? I entered once for 4 apps. It really isn't THAT painful. Let's not be overly dramatic about the issue.
I dunno, when it can take upwards of 3-5 minutes to enter some complex passwords, including fixing mistakes, some that force you to delete the whole password and start over again, when it would literally take a couple seconds with the remote app, it really doesn't matter how many times you have to enter them.
Well sure it just works...after all, you give it powers and it works....(sigh)... bottom line is that I'll stand by my statement and your comment about it doesn't work the way I like is rather silly. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Apple and the ATV4 has a reasonable claim to some of those criticisms.
But it's not a silly statement. While I can appreciate that it might be annoying that with the new ATV they have (for the time being) done away with the Remote App, they have made the decision to push the Siri Remote experience. I know I'd push a bundled $70 appliance over a free app. They are entitled to do that. And for you wanting to use the Remote app, there will be hundreds - if not, thousands, who can manage perfectly well with the new remote.
The Siri remote is not and cannot be the only remote used. There isn't even a basic volume mute button for one thing. Even if I wanted to just use the Siri remote for everything, I still have to reach for a different remote just to mute commercials. The end result for me is that my Harmony Smart Control is in my hand more than the Siri remote.
For many people, the Siri Romote is enough For others a more versatile Harmony remote is better. In either case the ATV4 has you covered.
For me, the Siri Remote is secondary, but It does everything I need so long as my ATV4 is the device I'm currently using (I don't use services with commercials). My Harmony is primary only because it can control everything else.
Right now the siri remote is doing everything for me except one function - I can't get it to turn off my stupid smart TV - ugh - if it did that i could retire the stupid "smart" remote that came with the tv. I'm blaming my TV but who knows.
That's funny, I've seen it before. But it is sorta missing the point here. Using a password manager means there is no point in picking a password that is memorable.
That's funny, I've seen it before. But it is sorta missing the point here. Using a password manager means there is no reason for picking a password that is memorable. Heck, I don't even pick the passwords.
I think the point of the comic is that a secure password doesn't have to be a difficult to type string of characters. Of course, a password manager will allow you to generate a different password for each account, which is more secure than using the same password for all accounts.
To be totally honest, I use any opportunity available to post XKCD comics. Carry on.
I was being tongue in cheek, but seriously, this is the 4th generation of a product and it has LOST a feature. I paid the worlds richest company $150 dollars, why do I need to give them time?
They may have stopped supporting the feature because it was determined that very few people actually used it. To be honest, I rarely used the remote app because it was broken for so long.
Hopefully they'll review the feedback and add the feature back. If you're not happy with it, you can still return it. Today is day number 14.
That's kind of circular reasoning. Release a ****** project, determine that no one uses it (because it's ******), stop working on project.
The remote app, shouldn't be your primary means of interacting with the Apple TV, I agree. But until there is a better way enter text into search fields, I think it should be an option.
That said, I love everything else about the AppleTV and have no intention of returning it. Doesn't mean I can't complain about an obvious missing feature and a give feedback to apple about it.
Teething problems? I don't see a difficult to use keyboard as being a teething problem, its design fault. Its not a bug
No remote app? Not a bug, nor a teething problem.
And the other complaints are not bugs, they are unfinished search features, unfinished categories. A guy on another forum has to scroll thru all seasons of his series to get to the one he wants to play after searching for it. Poor design, or probably great design but lets ship it and finish it later
Its slack. For Apple, the so called design experts ts very very poor
And for those that whine over my post, don't be defensive just cos its Apple, face it, they are getting less and less professional
I can only gather that either you haven't been reading the multiple troubles people have had, a legitimate expectation to work at least as well as the ATV3 (which in some respects it falls short) and so forth OR you choose to turn a blind eye. The reality is that this ATV4 has issues. It has issues that no upgrade should have when the basic unit has been out for nearly a decade. As for remotes and other things of this sort, Apple would have been wise to push the notion that it has some backwards compatibility and mention it with respect to remotes but alas, Apple has continued a path of telling us what we want and what we "need." Just to be fair, I know 3 people with ATV4 and one likes it, one is frustrated and one returned it. Enough said.
I just returned my AppleTV (first Apple product I ever returned) got a Nvidia Shield which does everything. AppleTV does plus it has the ability to use a keyboard (ironically I use an apple one) it has SlingTV, it has Kodi, it has faster hardware , it has gigabit Ethernet , it has dual usb3 ports to expand storage, it can even stream actual PC games to it as well as App Store type games and is 4K, voice activation works in YouTube (as well as the firetv) I went back to my older AppleTV for the one thing it is good for, AirPlay. Maybe I'll pick one up again in the future but I am beyond satisfied with my current solution.
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Yes, ATV4 has issues. But it's also a big revision that gives the ATV functions it never had before, namely apps. I find myself willing to put up with the glitches and regressions for the new features -- for example, I found this nice tennis app that is perfect for getting in a little exercise. That wasn't possible with ATV3.
This is really a re-launch. While a few things look similar, it was redone from the gound up. Most issues will be easily addressed by third party updates and is out side of Apple's control. For example Netflix could use iCloud to sync account information between your phone and the ATV4 eliminating the need for entering a password at all.
I get where Apple is coming from by not supporting BT keyboards. They feel that a keyboard is not an ideal input method for a TV. And to a large extent I agree. The issue is that they have not addressed WHY people want a keyboard. I would like to see them explore new options in is area. For example something as basic as finding a video in YouTube is a chore. Expanding AirPlay to cast videos like a Chromecast (disconnected from the phone) would go a long way in eliminating the need for a keyboard.
I don't have an Apple TV 4 but I run Plex on multiple different clients and all of them support authorisation by going to plex web site and typing in a six digit code displayed on the app.