ATV3, How Much Longer?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by MacAttacked, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. MacAttacked macrumors member

    Oct 21, 2011
    Just how old is the ATV2? Isn't it time for a refresh yet? I realize this isn't refreshed every year like everything else Apple, but 720p? Seriously?

    As an iPhone and iPad owner I really want the ATV for the obvious advantages compared to say the Rocku, but 720p is antiquated and I'd hate to go buy an ATV now and have them release the ATV3 early next year.

    Any thoughts on how much longer till Apple releases an ATV3?
  2. Consultant macrumors G5


    Jun 27, 2007
    ATV3 probably at least 2 or more months away.

    It's rare for Apple to start selling a new product right after the holidays.
  3. MacAttacked thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 21, 2011

    Yeah I get that, if it were that close it would be released for Christmas. However I would prefer not to pay $100 now and another $100 in March or April for ATV3.

    How old is the ATV2 ? Was it early 2010 ? Isn't it going on two years now?
  4. warvanov macrumors 6502a

    Oct 13, 2011
    I suspect the next AppleTV will be an actual Apple branded television. There might be an ATV3 released along side of that but they might delay it if they think it might eat into the sales of their new TV. This is purely my own speculation though, and we might see an ATV3 long before we see the Apple television.
  5. rbrian macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2011
    Aberdeen, Scotland
    You'll know a 1080p Apple TV will be released when iTunes starts selling 1080p films, not before.
  6. fpnc macrumors 68000

    Oct 30, 2002
    San Diego, CA
    The ATV2 was released in September 2010, or just over one year ago (Google and Wikipedia can be your friend ;)).

    As to when the next release will happen, this question gets asked here in the Apple TV thread several times per month and the answer hasn't changed -- no one knows for certain.

    If I has to guess I'd say that it could be another year before we see a new unit (hardware), but software updates and new services will probably appear at least every 6 months until then.
  7. MacAttacked thread starter macrumors member

    Oct 21, 2011
    Wow, didn't realize it's only been a little over a year.

    Also thats a good point about iTunes not offering 1080p content yet.

    Guess I'll just get one now and enjoy! ... Thanks!
  8. filmamigo macrumors member

    Sep 17, 2003
    Yes, you should definitely get one now.

    The Apple TV is a great buy at a $100. I ordered one on the day they were announced, even though I was a little concerned how 720P would look on my 1080P television. I didn't have to worry, it looks GREAT.

    In Canada, the first month with Apple TV was a bit limited. But then Netflix became available and made Apple TV complete. I've since bought half a dozen as gifts for family and friends.
  9. Che Castro macrumors 603

    May 21, 2009
    Why doesn't apple release it before Christmas

    Wouldn't they make more money ?

    @$100 they make a nice Christmas gift

    Instead people will be buying $50 rokus

    Honestly the apple tv 2 should be $50 also since its 720p

    And the next apple tv 3 $100
  10. zedsdead macrumors 68040

    Jun 20, 2007
    Sometime next year. Release history would typically indicate at the annual Sept. iPod Event, but you never know. The original version was announced at the iPod Event, but then released shortly after Macworld.
  11. kiranmk2 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2008
    I think it'll come with the iPad 3 launch. The iPad 3 will probably move to the A6 chip which will free up a lot of A5 chips for use in a new ATV and the iPad 3 will probably feature 1080p video capture. Apple also seem to be pushing airplay and screen mirroring so it would make sense to unveil a 1080p ATV alongside the new iPad. There will probably be a firmware update for the ATV 2 as well to allow 1080p output (but still limit it to 720p decoding).
  12. deversm macrumors newbie

    Jun 1, 2011
    As a former Roku owner, I say it's still overpriced at $50 while the ATV2 at $100 is a good value.

    Besides, from the little I know, it's not exactly in Apple's DNA to price based on the competition's pricing.

  13. Hook'Em2006 macrumors 6502

    Sep 9, 2009
    Plano, TX
    I think with the release of a Apple branded TV and/or Apple TV 3, iTunes will start to sell 1080p movies. Releasing the someday or something like that
  14. AppleWarMachine macrumors 65816


    Sep 27, 2011
    Michigan, US
    Hopefully not long, I just purchased a 50" HDTV and would like to get the ATV3 (bluetooth 4.0) for it.
  15. reebzor macrumors 6502a


    Jul 18, 2008
    Philadelphia, PA
    What purpose would bluetooth serve on an AppleTV?
  16. peterjcat macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2010
    What is it about Bluetooth 4.0 that you are looking forward to?
  17. HazyCloud macrumors 68030


    Jun 30, 2010
  18. Dr Kevorkian94 macrumors 68020

    Jun 9, 2009
    SI, NY
    Thats cool, but why not just have a built in mic instead of a remote? If you really wanted a Siri power remote just include it in the commands for Siri on the iPhone (and whatever devises have it by that time). I'm not calling you out lol just sayinging it would be easier. Regardless it would be cool to have Siri as a remote, but just in case I'd like to have the remote app still compatable. Also I agree that the ATV will probably not support 1080p until the iTunes store does. Well in my case I just bought one so I'd appreciate if a new version wouldent come out so soon.:D
  19. hafr macrumors 68030

    Sep 21, 2011
    I don't think it would be a good idea to have the mic built into the Apple TV, because this could mean that what's being said on TV could control it...
  20. HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 604


    Feb 8, 2004
    Hobe Sound, FL (20 miles north of Palm Beach)
    Not at all. It's a matter of processing the audio to screen out anything & everything in the program audio. Basically, you would be telling the Siri technology to completely ignore what is being played through the :apple:TV audio stream. It would make Siri "deaf" to all that but still perfectly capable of sounds being made by the person or people watching.

    This would work like noise-canceling headphones, only better because the code would be tuned to very specific audio that is being processed from whatever is playing via :apple:TV.
  21. Confuzzzed macrumors 68000


    Aug 7, 2011
    Liverpool, UK
    If we're doing a wishlist, how about a little more content/features for Europe! As it is, the box is too US centric and really only ever used for streaming (which could easily be achieved with an old mac mini) in Europe. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact I was take a video on my iPhone or iPad and share it with the whole family on the large screen via apple TV. And mirroring is handy also. But at the price (£102 in the UK or $150-$160) is it really worth it especially with smart TVs and other technologies?
  22. hafr macrumors 68030

    Sep 21, 2011
    If you say it's possible, it's probably possible. But then what would happen if I ask my wife "do you want to fast forward the movie"? :)

    I think it'd be cool to get voice commands to work flawlessly without it picking up on the sound from the TV or a conversation in the sofa, but unless it's super smooth I'd never want to get rid of the control. And to be honest, I probably wouldn't to even if it was super smooth. I'd like to have the option of voice commands, but not be locked to it.
  23. slothrob macrumors 6502

    Jun 12, 2007
    It would have to be optional, wouldn't it? After all, some people can't speak.
  24. kas23, Dec 9, 2011
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2011

    kas23 macrumors 603


    Oct 28, 2007
    I don't know about Siri on my TV. It's best for mobile devices because they have small screens and one may benefit from speaking rather than touching or typing onto a small screen. Not so with a TV remote. There really is nothing wrong with pressing buttons. The problem is there are way too many buttons crammed on the remote and every appliance seems to have its own remote. It's not the pressing part that is troublesome.

    I have Siri on my iPhone 4S and barely ever use it. Besides, what's going to happen when you try to control your TV and Apple's Siri servers are down? Why Siri needs a remote server to accomplish extremely simple commands (like "call my wife") is beyond me. In fact, I would go as far as saying having Siri on our TVs may actually add complexity that isn't needed.

    As for the topic, I have an ATV2 too. And, no, I don't use it that much either. But, it you want one, I would pick one up now while they're discounted. I really can't see Apple adding that much functionality. Sure, we'll see 1080p and we may see iCloud, but what will iCloud actually do on our TVs? I don't readily see the benefit of having contacts or calendar events sync'd to my TV. Having keynote presentations sync'd to your TV is a cool idea, but I wouldn't use it ever.
  25. Uofmtiger macrumors 68000


    Dec 11, 2010
    While I don't really need voice control for basic operation, it would be great for those things you want to type in like searches for movies and songs. Right now, I use Siri quite a bit to play music from my fairly large collection in the cloud (iTunes Match). It is currently a bit glitchy, but I can tell Siri to shuffle Bob Dylan music and it will (eventually) find it and play it.

    Some of the most useful iCloud features are already on AppleTV2. It has my entire music collection available via iTunes match when my computer is off. I have a mini that serves lossless files, so I am not using it, but as more and more people move to laptops/iPads and get rid of desktops and servers, it will become more and more useful to have it built into ATV2. If you are one of the many people that do not like having a computer on all the time, this is extremely convenient and useful.

    Also, Photostream is avaialble now. I can take a pic with my iPhone and it will show up on my AppleTV automatically. Also, if I edit a file on a Mac with photostream turned on, it will also update photostream.

    I would like 1080p, but to be honest, 720p is plenty good.

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