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August 22 or 29 for new MBPs?

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BullMooseFilms

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http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/30/apple-to-channel-partners-stock-up-now/

The three week window seems to get us to late August now (damn)

I now know I have to have the laptop by Sept 8, and then with the 14 day window that means Sept 22 before I'm stuck with whatever I have.

But the bulletin to retailers is definite evidence of dates that we haven't had 'til now, and also thats the same sort of thing they've sent in the past from what I've read.

There's a question I wanted to ask and it got asked in one of the big news threads but never answered:

What happens if you do the BTS deal and get the iPod, but then return the MBP to exchange for the new model?

At this point I'm happy with just the new processors and FSB and RAM speed bumps, they'll make a good difference for the long renders I have to do with my MBP. I don't care about it being portable I want it to be as powerful as possible, because I can't get a desktop, as we're required to get a laptop...

edit: August 26th - it helps to look at the "August" page of the calendar.
 
squeeks said:
well in that case

http://www.alienware.com/products/a...sCode=PC-LT-AREA51M17X-FC&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT


dont forget

https://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/28/apple-to-adopt-alternative-chipsets-for-next-laptops/
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We're also required to buy the MBP. (as well as FCStudio 2) I'd much prefer one of those new Vaios...

Also who knows when they worked out those chipsets, could have been months ago - the hard fact we have right now is that bulletin to retailers - three weeks.
 
winninganthem said:
You can make an exchange within 14 days of your original purchase date.

Apple charges a 10% restock fee if you have opened the MBP box. The remaining 90% of your purchase will go toward the exchange for the new model.
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So what happens to the free iPod - that was my question. Do you just get to keep it or do you have to turn it in when you exchange the old MBP.
 
Interesting, it just seems like you could get the same stuff done on a regular old PC if budgets were tight.
 
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...Id=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921665444446

I'd rather get that - maxed out with BluRay burner, 4gb RAM, 320gb HD, and the 2.8 processor it's still just $2349, which is $600 less than the MBP is with the 2.5 processor and 2GB of RAM and no Blu-Ray (which I need - we will be making HD films at school, and so BRD is good to make output copies of our work)

And OSX is no enticement for me, so save those comments.

So my feeling is if I have to get the MBP at least I want the new one thats a bit faster for rendering and I can have something new and flashy looking. I like those leaked case shots.

I asked our Film Dean about this and he said "FCP is industry standard and you need to have it" so that is that I guess.
 
BullMooseFilms said:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...Id=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921665444446

I'd rather get that - maxed out with BluRay burner, 4gb RAM, 320gb HD, and the 2.8 processor it's still just $2349, which is $600 less than the MBP is with the 2.5 processor and 2GB of RAM and no Blu-Ray (which I need - we will be making HD films at school, and so BRD is good to make output copies of our work)
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I'm a die-hard Apple fan and will never buy a PC but seriously guys, just look at that... man, the new MBPs better make some seriously big catch ups because right now they are such poor value for money it's embarrassing.
 
BullMooseFilms said:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...Id=10151&langId=-1&LBomId=8198552921665444446

I'd rather get that - maxed out with BluRay burner, 4gb RAM, 320gb HD, and the 2.8 processor it's still just $2349, which is $600 less than the MBP is with the 2.5 processor and 2GB of RAM and no Blu-Ray (which I need - we will be making HD films at school, and so BRD is good to make output copies of our work)

And OSX is no enticement for me, so save those comments.

So my feeling is if I have to get the MBP at least I want the new one thats a bit faster for rendering and I can have something new and flashy looking. I like those leaked case shots.

I asked our Film Dean about this and he said "FCP is industry standard and you need to have it" so that is that I guess.
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Yeah I'm aiming for an the FW series as well now that Newegg's SR series sold out. I'm only concern that the 16" will be too big...anyone seen the real thing? How much bigger is it compared to the 15" MBP?

But remember the rumor of decrease in price of the MBP? If that is confirmed, I feel I should wait for it. The FW's GPU is not powerful enough!
 
BullMooseFilms said:
I asked our Film Dean about this and he said "FCP is industry standard and you need to have it" so that is that I guess.
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Sounds stupid, you are not going to school to learn apps, its pointless.
In school you are supposed to learn your trade not the tools, most likely you get some on site training once you get a job, to get you up to date with the tools they use.
 
piimaPAKK said:
Sounds stupid, you are not going to school to learn apps, its pointless.
In school you are supposed to learn your trade not the tools, most likely you get some on site training once you get a job, to get you up to date with the tools they use.
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Err a little harsh, you are. Classes, in this case, film editing and whatnot, teaches you to create/edit through a universal program (universal as in everyone in class uses it). This makes it easier for the instructor to show and or point out various functions necessary in building the project - the idea is the same throughout the industry, it's just that it'll take forever to figure out if a student is using Final Cut, another on Adobe Premiere, etc. In addition it enhances group working experience and builds a stronger knowledge pool, blah blah blah. Besides that film and other creative arts software are unique; some have functions other programs don't and thus are not perfect substitutes.

What you're trying to point out only applies in the field of computer science, where the course revolves around a certain language and thus students can use any compiler in any OS of their liking. Any modifications to codes is dependent upon the individual, not the program (in most cases) since it just reads and display. So **** and be respectful.
 
piimaPAKK said:
Sounds stupid, you are not going to school to learn apps, its pointless.
In school you are supposed to learn your trade not the tools, most likely you get some on site training once you get a job, to get you up to date with the tools they use.
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You don't know the industry apparantly. If you tried to go in and get a job editing and you didn't already know the program backwards you'd be shown the door. The main ones to know are FCP, Avid and Premiere. I personally use Sony Vegas which is also somewhat used, but being a 3 platform capable editor will be very attractive on my resume.

Our school uses both FCP and Avid, the first major project is done on FCP (and with our mandated laptops) and the second on PCs in Avid. This particular school is aimed at real world practical skills more than theory. The editing lab, for example, has 30 macs with FCP and 30 pcs with Avid.
 
Final Cut being industry standard is far from 100% truth. There is no real industry standard. Avid is commonly used not to forget Premiere coming back into the frame and Autodesk owning it's fair share, not for getting Pinnacle or Ulead... The list goes on and it changes every few years or so depending on features required.

It depends where you work as to what you use. From my experience every employer wants Avid or Final Cut (stands you in good stead) but also 2 years broadcast experience... That's fun to try and get!
 
And my original question...

Still haven't gotten an answer on this -

If I get the BTS deal, and I then return it to get the new MBP if it comes out later, I get that I have to pay the restocking fee, but do you get to also keep the free iPod?
 
BullMooseFilms said:
Still haven't gotten an answer on this -

If I get the BTS deal, and I then return it to get the new MBP if it comes out later, I get that I have to pay the restocking fee, but do you get to also keep the free iPod?
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keep being active in this thread, i have a friend that works at the apple store and i'm going to see him today probably. i'll make sure to post the answer here as i also want to know the answer :)
 
August 22 [and 29] is a sure shot no! Apple would have had to send out invites to the press and obviously that hasnt happened!

It'll be September Mid!
 
Apple Ink said:
August 22 [and 29] is a sure shot no! Apple would have had to send out invites to the press and obviously that hasnt happened!

It'll be September Mid!
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In one of the main news threads someone was talking about an Aug 12 press event. they could announce it and have it come out a week or two later...
 
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