Pfft the ACCC is useless. When it comes to electricity and petrol prices, they're asleep at the wheel but this ooooo yeah quick better jump onto it.
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Australia Eyes Consumer Impact of Google's Default Search Engine Deal With Apple
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Default apps, yes! Make sure that default can be changed to a competitive product. But I don't think it's necessary to look into the default search engine. It's default can be changed. Now regardless of which the default is, there has to be a default. It just might as well be the one that pays Apple a billion dollars a year don't you agree? I mean Apple can make Bing/Yahoo/Duck if they would pay more than the amount but are they willing to do that?
I can tell you: none.
We also fail miserably to get taxes from Apple, Facebook, Google, The Murdoch Press, etc. etc.
This type of thinking is why companies think it's okay for them to automatically opt-in their customers to share personal information with advertisers, affiliates, and other companies. Just provide the customer with a notice that informs them they can change the default and opt-out if they want to.
lol brilliant idea...let’s create massive complicated systems like that.
this isn’t about opt-in vs out. This is about choice of default search/apps.
When I buy a new car, I'm gonna complain to the ACCC about the preselected radio station on my car's entertainment console.
Yea totally... I bought a car and not happy that the default tires are Bridgestone.. I must be given a choice.When I buy a new car, I'm gonna complain to the ACCC about the preselected radio station on my car's entertainment console.
so many of examples of why this is stupid
Always has been, that’s what happens when a society is built on the foundation of a penal colony. The idea that some external governing body has to be in control of everything ingrains itself into the mindset of the population.
If the Australian government actually cared about this issue, they would have investigated it when Apple started selling phones in Australia. Why wait until now, 12 years later? What took them so long? What local search provider are they so concerned is missing out on search advertising revenue? Sensis? LOL.
This is nothing but pandering to Murdoch to keep him onside for the upcoming election.
This is nothing but pandering to Murdoch to keep him onside for the upcoming election.
Interesting. I disagree with your statement though. To me the 'penal colony' romanticism is tired and outdated, but to each their own opinions.
I demand an investigation into the tyres and oil used by car manufacturers and their dealer network workshops. We should be given a choice of what tyres and lubricants are installed in vehicles at the time of purchase.When I buy a new car, I'm gonna complain to the ACCC about the preselected radio station on my car's entertainment console.
And dammit, I don't want air in my tyres. I want nitrogen!
Murdoch is a danger to this country. Too bad most Australians are too thick to see it.
Good. The users should be asked to select a search engine when they use Safari first time. That’s what Microsoft did.
If Apple did that but had to increase the price of devices by $200 to recoup lost revenue, would you still want a selection screen?
The default search engine setting is a traffic generation deal; Apple is selling search query traffic to Google. If Microsoft ponied up more cash than Google, Bing would be the default search engine on Safari. DuckDuckGo isn't the default because they can't afford to buy the default setting, and they never will because they don't have the economies of scale that enable Google to afford to spend billions of dollars buying the default spot.
Everything has a price, and the price of having a search engine selection screen (that 90% of people would choose Google from because that is what they know) may very well be a more expensive iPhone, iPad and Mac, and the only one to really benefit will be Google who will save themselves billions of dollars because they're now being offered a position at the same level as DuckDuckGo.
So if 90% of users (according to your post) would choose google anyway, is the government pandering to the 10%?
And if 90% would choose google anyway, how is this a traffic generation deal? If Bing was the default search engine do you think the 90% would change it to google even if there were no options presented? My guess is yes, the 90% would figure out how to go into settings change the default search engine.
You have a choice, go into the Safari Preferences and change it. Anyone that has a desire to use a specific search engine knows that.