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I think Apple should hire this 19 year old student and make this person work for cyber security department, I’m sure this person will do good for all of us.

What I’m surprise that it take long time to download 90 gigabytes of secure files and accessing customer accounts.

Why Apple didn’t detect during at the time?
Oh sure reward criminal behavior by giving the kid his dream job.

There are probably kids out there now looking at this outcome as encouragement to keep on hacking. Meanwhile some kid with actual character and integrity will have to take the long way round to getting noticed.

Well, the world works the way the world works. It explains why a lot of trash are millionaires and the rest of us are wage slaves.

I really think he should be punished severely and appropriately. Minimum 2 years of 3 hours per day doing tech support for everyone’s elderly parents and grandparents!
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So, the lesson for all of the minors in Australia is that you can flaunt whatever laws you want with zero real consequences. Seems like not the right message to send.
Apparently if you are displaying a desirable skill set and come from the right schools.
 
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The crime was committed at 16. 16 years old can make stupid mistakes.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They were far too lenient. I liked the idea of stoned to death by apples.
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Hacking is always a touchy subject, because while it can be used to do crimes it also usually shows how smart the person is. Just turn these people into White Hat hackers for your company with a job offer and the premise to not commit any more crimes. Simple. No point in imprisonment when a lot of these folks clearly have a rare skill set.

Good ol' Chuck Manson had the rare skillset of convincing people that the Beatles wanted a race war. Should he have been elected governor instead of life in prison?

There are proper ways to become a white hat hacker. Breaking into a corporation and stealing customer data is not the proper way.
 
„Dreaming to work for apple”. Looks like in the tech/ security industry you better figure out a successful hack than handing in your cv.
 
Oh sure reward criminal behavior by giving the kid his dream job.

There are probably kids out there now looking at this outcome as encouragement to keep on hacking. Meanwhile some kid with actual character and integrity will have to take the long way round to getting noticed.

Well, the world works the way the world works. It explains why a lot of trash are millionaires and the rest of us are wage slaves.

I really think he should be punished severely and appropriately. Minimum 2 years of 3 hours per day doing tech support for everyone’s elderly parents and grandparents!
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Apparently if you are displaying a desirable skill set and come from the right schools.

I understand your points and you are right by all means. Every country need the best "White Hat" team in the world in order to protected at the commercial scale - making much harder for cyber-criminal to break-in, if one can get in then this mean this person got one more powerful skill then "white hat" team - would you rather throw this person in the jail or hire him out.

What if everything is very easy to hack - what's the life would be like?
 
I understand your points and you are right by all means. Every country need the best "White Hat" team in the world in order to protected at the commercial scale - making much harder for cyber-criminal to break-in, if one can get in then this mean this person got one more powerful skill then "white hat" team - would you rather throw this person in the jail or hire him out.

What if everything is very easy to hack - what's the life would be like?
I’ve read about a white hat team program that recruited middle school girls and trained them to be white hat hackers from the get go. I don’t see why we can’t continue to do similar. I’d rather have people with demonstrable character and integrity handling these things.

People who cut corners the way this teenager did, well I wonder what kinds of people they become when they get real power in our “shadow system” where accountability to the public is not required. I went to university with some really unethical students whom I know now work for one infamous US three-letter agency. I’ve seen and dealt with some of their agents and they are appallingly unprofessional and abuse their authority and I can see the dysfunction in that particular agency which apparently keeps hiring likeminded people.

I don’t know enough about Australian jails to comment on whether a jail sentence would be an appropriate punishment for this particular criminal. I think some sort of very intensive community service would be more appropriate in my own country because our jails are known to be very violent places.

Ideally there should be a much more ethical and well known recruitment process for these white hat hacker types rather than hiring them based on which kid is the best at breaking laws under their parents’ roofs and messing with real people’s data. If another kid sees how well things went for this boy I can’t really blame them for trying to do the same. All we are seeing here is that crime does pay.

It disgusts me as someone who is trying to raise up future adults who have character and integrity and morals. For our kids to do what this one did, they would have to look me in the eye and lie to me and do a lot behind my back and even more to get around my husband’s vigilance.

And say they decide they don’t care what values we are trying to pass along and do this anyway. They will get their dream job and think their parents are fools. And frankly that would be the end of the relationship. Because without trust and respect, it’s pretty much impossible to have a relationship. They’d always have my love, but I would never trust or respect them again knowing that money and position meant more than honor and integrity.
 
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Maybe because of an increasingly digital world, companies NEED to hire people with skills that get around their systems... No one is currently hiring door kickers or glass breakers are they??
Um when you actually make clear what your comment has to do with what I was commenting on come back to me son
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It appears he copied data from Apple and didn't break anything. So, a better analogy might be that he walked into your house through an open door and made a copy of the underpants that you left lying around.
Umm great analogy. So I’ll be round to break into your house tonight to make a copy your underpants. We cool yeah ? I’m only 16 so all good
 
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A Melbourne schoolboy who hacked into Apple's corporate servers on multiple occasions over two years has avoided conviction, reports The Age.

The 19-year-old student, who can't be named for legal reasons as his case is being heard in an Australian Children's Court, earlier pleaded guilty to hacking into Apple's internal systems several times in 2015 and 2016.

The boy's hacking is said to have begun at the age of 16, and involved downloading 90 gigabytes of secure files and accessing customer accounts. His lawyer later told police that the teen "dreamed of" working for Apple.

The magistrate dealing with the case reportedly handed down an eight-month probation order, and said that no conviction would be recorded. The court also heard how the private school boy has since been accepted into university to study criminology and cyber safety.

That international investigation began when Apple detected the unauthorized access and blocked the source of the intrusions. The company notified the FBI, which passed on the information to the Australian Federal Police, resulting in a warrant being executed at the family home last year.

Prosecutors said the raid turned up a "litany of hacking files" in a folder on the boy's computer named "hacky hack hack," as well as devices with IP addresses that matched the source of the intrusions.

Following reports of the case, Apple released a statement to assure customers that at no point during the incident was personal data compromised.

Article Link: Australian Teen Who Hacked into Apple's Servers Multiple Times Avoids Jail

Oh what a surprise, another pathetic hacker makes a pathetic excuse and he gets his dream! I do hope he’s spent the money he made form selling everyone’s data he STOLE served him well.

I’m going to go and rob a stately home at the weekend, I fancy a course in Antiques...

Nothing but another example of pathetic courts and judges who have absolutely NO clue about cyber crime and how to handle it, apart from rewarding the criminals who perform it, utter joke.
I cannot wait for these kiddy hackers to shut the power down in a country for a laugh or steal medical records and sell them, or have they done that one already? Because their is zero deterrent to these crimes.
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If he download encrypted data with no way to encrypt it, the story is still only half correct.

MR made the mistake of linking to the original article (before sentencing) from Aug. 16. instead of the Bloomberg article which actually detailed the sentencing.
Relevant excerpt: "A search of the teenager’s home recovered two Apple MacBook laptops and a hard drive that contained a folder labeled ‘Hacky Hack Hack Methods Exclude,’ which included 12 files on methods to infiltrate or bypass Apple’s security. Australian investigators recovered about a terabyte of data “sensitive both from a privacy and commercial point of view,” that had been copied from Apple’s systems, a prosecutor told an earlier hearing." - Bloomberg

Also unreported by MR: the kid broke in again after being detected and blocked by Apple.: "After being detected and blocked in November 2016, the defendant and the second person succeeded in briefly regaining access to Apple’s systems last year, according to the magistrate."

Yeh the idiot blantantly deliberately knowingly broke the law and stole a lot of information, so they sent him to university..... no crime pays like cybercrime.
 
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Yeh the idiot blantantkt deliberately knowingly broke the law and stole a port of information, so they sent him to university..... no crime pays like cybercrime.
Apologies. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Nor am I sure how it relates to my quote. I was just commenting about the inaccuracy of the article and it's poorly attributed source material.
 
So because this guy was a borderline kid he can get away with stealing the personal info of a lot of people which could have been used to potentially steal their identities? Good to know that if a 16 year old ruins your life it’s ok.
 
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From Apple's press release:



So either Apple is lying here, or the boy download fake data from a honey pot?

it's odd wording but it's possible that his hacking actions involved attempting to access iCloud accounts but he was unsuccessful. those no customer data was actually compromised.
as for the other stuff, I've heard that Apple has a huge knowledge base of all kinds of tech info and he could have ended up with a bunch of that. it would be potentially valuable to folks trying to make fake parts etc
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He could have downloaded 90 GB of encrypted customer data with no way to decrypt it. In that case, both the story and the press release are correct.

that's another possibility as well. I hadn't thought about the fact that raw iCloud data would be encrypted and if he didn't find the key in he'd have it but it wasn't compromised.
 
How can you be smart enough to hack into Apple but not be smart enough to cover your footprints?
 
A 25 year old can still be a child. Not everyone matures at the same rate.
And not everyone reaches the same level of maturity. Your point?
A society has to set a level at which there is an expectation of a person knowing what they are doing is wrong.
Someone who is hacking to gain access to a company's server(s) I would say has reached that level. Don't get me wrong, I am not in favor of this person's life being destroyed as I think there is too much of that in today's society, I do think there should be some negative consequence. If this is the case, going after these types of crimes committed by "minors" is just a waste of tax payers' money and the court's time.
 
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