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Considering I have my iPhone mounted like that in the same position in my car, I'm guessing the CarPlay option with a bigger screen and better hands free control will probably reduce distracted driving in my case.
 
The idea that people want to be listening to the radio, and therefore let's give them a way to do that -- that's not putting safety first, that's putting convenience and the desire to listen to the radio first.

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Are other knobs and dials distracting?

Yes.

However input with a knob is at least semi-tactile. You can just feel around for the knob and move it without really looking at it. A touchscreen with no tactile feedback is going to require a lot more visual input and thus distraction.

only after you first buy a car
after a week or so most people know where all the buttons are and a lot of them are on the steering wheel now
 
"Car safety experts" would like you not to have food, drink or music in your car.

OTOH, they would likely be happiest if you were encased in rigid foam.
 
only after you first buy a car
after a week or so most people know where all the buttons are and a lot of them are on the steering wheel now

thats one of the points with this that will be interesting.

How will CarPlay handle steering wheel mounted controls. Steering wheel controls > other controls because you never have to take your hands off the wheel, and the visual distance to drop your eyes to the wheel in case you have to (which as you said, should go away after the first week) is far less distracting than the shift to the centre console.

Most current touchscreen based interfaces for cars have a 2ndary input method where all functionality can still be accessed and used using physical buttons.

Will this still be the case with carplay?

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And now you have to muzzle your kids cause their whining might be distracting

how about muzzling the kids, not for distraction, just cause Whining kids piss me off :p
they need to invent a car with a seperate cabin for children....
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I have to agree here. Even with ZERO distractions, most people can barely drive correctly and just dont perform the most fuindamental tasks correctly.

I get the whole argument about "well, this is better than having them staring at their phone the whole time". But, making it easier or *slightly* safer for them to stay distracted is NOT fixing the problem. The distraction still exists.

What I still cant figure out is what the !@#$% you damned cell phone people are doing on your phone in the car thats so important? Cant your "LOL" reply wait a little bit? Do you really have to let your buddy know that you are "almost there"? Really?

Are you just that lonely and unfulfilled as a human being? I wonder.

Damn phone people.... :rolleyes: :p

Stop making sense! Wrong Forum!
 
Dumb Question?

How come I'm seeing more Apple Rumors on Yahoo than I am here. Is it just old news or are we missing things?
 
Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban.

That's how you fix things. Create unlawful artificial restrictions that treat people as too stupid to make the right decision.

Time to ban cars altogether. People can't be trusted.
 
Ban. Ban. Ban. Ban.

That's how you fix things. Create unlawful artificial restrictions that treat people as too stupid to make the right decision.

Time to ban cars altogether. People can't be trusted.

Do you feel the same way about guns?
 
Oh no, in no way I disbelieve that talking is somewhat distracting.

Good, because it certainly appeared that you disbelieved that talking on a phone was more dangerous than talking to a passenger.

people will always talk, even if you make it illegal.

'People are always going to speed... no point in making it illegal.' 'People are always going to drive while drunk, even if you make it illegal.' 'People will find a way to get guns and keep killing their neighbors by accident, even if they are illegal.' I'm old enough to remember people making those arguments in earnest, in various places. Thing is, they are exactly the same as yours. Every time, the laws didn't eliminate the behavior, but they did save lives. In some cases, lots. So if you really want to be of the position that this law is bad, you have to maybe figure out how many lives saved would be worth making talking on the phone in the car illegal (so you can still do it but you risk being arrested...which also means you and the drivers around you soon it less often.)

How many dead people is it worth for society to be able to talk comfortably on the phone in their cars, and how many maimed?

As for the 'more and more laws' argument, if a government sees some relatively new phenomenon that kills people who aren't even involved in it and DOESN'T look into whether it should be curtailed, maybe that's a pretty poor government.
 
Yep. If they are really worried about distractions then remove all radios, CD players, DVD players, gps etc. Require cars to have tech that renders all phones etc unusable.

I'd vote for stiffer requirements for getting a driver's license. I had 3 near misses on this morning's commute from idiots who lack proper driving skills. Distracted? I couldn't say, but when you drift 1 foot INTO the next lane then you need to dust up on your driving skills.

They have narrower roads in Europe, yet I felt safer driving over there when I visited last year, than I do driving in the US.
 
Time to ban cars altogether. People can't be trusted.

Well, you clearly can't. And you've clearly decided that it's fine to trade the life of anyone you should happen to run into for your own convenience. Could you tell me where you'll be driving for the next 30 years, so I can avoid that area?
 
But as I said, it's not the worst and if you had a Volvo I'm pretty sure you would get used to the buttons and use them without looking.

Porsche's current design is mad because all the buttons are around the gearstick:

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I've not seen a Volvo with that interior so would need to take our word for it being bad. Rental cars can be the worst though because every one of them is different. And yes, that is becoming common telling you to take a break, lorry drivers have to do it by law so I guess it's time for car drivers? Well according to Volvo anyway.
Some dashboards are better than others though.

Mercedes has the coffee icon as well.

TBH, I was under the impression that most of the buttons near the shifter in the Porsche were mean to change vehicle dynamics. Probably something safer to do when the vehicle isn't in motion anyways.
 
So auto safety experts are concerned about this but not about soccer moms texting down the freeway at 70mph.

Safety Auto experts very very much care about the soccer mom's driving down the road texting at any speed. Your statement is full of ignorance.


Whether or not your particular legislatures care is a different argument.

Around the world. More and more governments at all levels have started taking a hard road about 'soccer moms texting while driving at 70mphs'.

Just take a look at all the states and Provinces as an example who have passed such laws.

Right now in Ontario, Canada (as mentioned a barrillion times), it is even illegal for you to be holding your phone in your hand (even off) while operating a motor vehicle, even one stopped at a traffic light. The only legal time you can operate a phone while behind the wheel here is if you are safely parked.

UNfortunately there isn't enough enforcement to catch everyone.

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I'd vote for stiffer requirements for getting a driver's license. I had 3 near misses on this morning's commute from idiots who lack proper driving skills. Distracted? I couldn't say, but when you drift 1 foot INTO the next lane then you need to dust up on your driving skills.

They have narrower roads in Europe, yet I felt safer driving over there when I visited last year, than I do driving in the US.

I was almost in 2 accidents this morning. from two people not paying attention when pulling out of two different parking plaza's

and my commute is only 1.5kms

I completely agree. North American driving standards are still too low (Despite Ontario's graduated license program). too many people "buying" their licenses here.
 
It is all just so DUMB. It has nothing to do with actual safety and everything do with controlling people, and getting people used to the idea of their behavior being shaped and controlled by 'law'.

I can't even call them 'laws', any more than a soldier could call an unlawful order an 'order'.

We do not need laws to protect people from themselves. They are the opposite of sane and rational. While they cling desperately to the idea of protecting "other" drivers...you cannot truly do so.

You need to instead educate people on safe driving and trust them to do the right thing. When they don't...well, it will work itself out. Seatbelt laws are the epitome of psychosis. If you're too dumb to wear a seatbelt while driving...you get what you deserve. There should be no law requiring you to protect yourself.

The world is backwards.
 
Distracted driving is a serious problem.

Every darn morning on my commute some jerk almost runs into me and I look at them and they're gabbing away on their cellphone or putting on makeup, even one morning some jerk was reading the newspaper while trying to drive. It's insane the things people do while driving.
 
Putting an Apple TV circa 2007 interface in a brand new car is like also equipping it with a Victor Photograph.

Its this lack of effort which is worrying me about the post-Jobs Apple. They just seem to want to rush something to market but don't care about the aesthetics or quality of it, which was Microsoft's modus operandi for decades.

Dude, the real interface is your voice and your ears...that's the point of Carplay, to stop looking down when you're going 100 ft/sec...that's 10 ft per 0.1 secs.
 
Just make it 100% Siri and only have the display for navigation, music adjustments, A/C, etc. How hard is it people? All those so-called geniuses working at Apple and these car companies and they have no common sense.
 
No one is concerned about safety until Apple goes into the market :roll eyes:
 
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