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AutoCAD Coming to Mac, First Beta Screenshots
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really?
You ask "Where is Corel?"
Corel couldn't be any more irrelevant in today's markets. Maybe for your grandmother making greeting cards at home on an inkjet printer, but not much for anything else.
AutoCAD coming back is good, no great. When the titans of Macintosh software who abandoned the platform long ago realize it's time to return, the rest of the world will notice, "hey, what am I missing."
And AutoCAD for iPAD? ROTFLMAO. Yeah, right.
You ask "Where is Corel?"
Corel couldn't be any more irrelevant in today's markets. Maybe for your grandmother making greeting cards at home on an inkjet printer, but not much for anything else.
AutoCAD coming back is good, no great. When the titans of Macintosh software who abandoned the platform long ago realize it's time to return, the rest of the world will notice, "hey, what am I missing."
And AutoCAD for iPAD? ROTFLMAO. Yeah, right.
Sure. Macs are the future because they finally have a program that has been running on windows since the dawn of CAD.
This is great news for the 4 architecture firms who solely use macs, but i dont expect a lot of firms to ditch their PCs and buy more expensive macs with weaker gfx cards any time soon.
First, you're missing the point. Companies like Steam and Autodesk are proactively coming or coming back to the Mac because they see a big future with Apple's Macintosh, if they were doing just fine with Windows there would be no need to support the Mac unless they saw a promising future, obviously they do.
Secondly, you're assuming that most firms are using gaming GPU's in their Windows machines to run AutoCAD. You can bet there are a great deal of outdated notebooks being used in firms right now running AutoCAD. There's nothing wrong with the GPU's in the iMacs or the MBP's to hinder them from running AutoCAD. Obviously Steam certainly didn't have the narrow-minded thinking you do and thankfully they don't or we wouldn't be able to do anything on our Macs but run TextEdit.
Strategically odd...
It would seem to make more sense to do Revit first. Revit drives hardware refreshes, and is what the A/E industry is being (forcibly) moved to.
We are still stuck with too much windows only software (SKM, Trace, EnergyPro, etc.) that AutoCAD without Revit would be hard to push Mac purchases. I won't complain though... It will keep me from opening a .dwg file in Illustrator when I am too busy to leave the office or have someone PDF it for me.
It would seem to make more sense to do Revit first. Revit drives hardware refreshes, and is what the A/E industry is being (forcibly) moved to.
We are still stuck with too much windows only software (SKM, Trace, EnergyPro, etc.) that AutoCAD without Revit would be hard to push Mac purchases. I won't complain though... It will keep me from opening a .dwg file in Illustrator when I am too busy to leave the office or have someone PDF it for me.
Slightly off topic but it would be really awesome if they would release 3DS Max for the Mac as well.
No high horse here, but as someone who needs the power and expandability of a desktop, I have to say the current Mac Pro leaves a lot to be desired in the "bang-for-your-buck" category.
According to the buyer's guide, it's been 445 days they did anything more than bump its processor. For a company with, what, $25 billion in the bank? That's a bit disappointing.
That would be great. Then I'd get a lot of my harddrive back from bootcamp. Also, ESRI do a simple GIS viewer, for viewing shape files etc, for the Mac.
I am starting to get concerned man. with all these companies it's giving hackers more reasons to target the Mac. I am still surprised there has not been a major one related to steam.
They leave you ONCE.
My brother is a power-user, he grew up with AutoCad. He would have probably considered the Mac version a year ago. But he settled with Windows 7. It's too late and I'm sure that many architects/designers/engineers feel the same way. (Actually, those ToughBooks might also help).
Once you abandon professionals, it's difficult to get them back. The same applies to the video editors. Final Cut team, please take notice.
My brother is a power-user, he grew up with AutoCad. He would have probably considered the Mac version a year ago. But he settled with Windows 7. It's too late and I'm sure that many architects/designers/engineers feel the same way. (Actually, those ToughBooks might also help).
Once you abandon professionals, it's difficult to get them back. The same applies to the video editors. Final Cut team, please take notice.
Agreed. I'm an architect and avid mac user and I love the idea of AutoCAD on a Mac, but Revit and other BIM programs are the future. I would really like to see Revit on a Mac! I'm in the process of moving our software from AutoCAD to Revit and if there was a Mac version, we'd be switching from PC to Mac too.
I'd love to see Softimage for Mac...if only if only...*sigh*
Back on topic though, this is great news. On a side note...I thought the architecture industry already had a large Mac-base? Pretty much all architecture students I've ever come into contact with (and I've come into contact with a fair few over the years) have been Mac users. My local university's school of Architecture uses Macs almost exclusively I believe; and I've walked past a fair few architecture firms (for lack of a better word) and seen Macs in the window.
And AutoCAD for iPAD? ROTFLMAO. Yeah, right.
I dont want AutoCAD for the iPad, I want Autodesk to release a DWF viewer for the iPad. As well as a DWF toolkit for those who want to build apps around DWFs (e.g. automatic roundtripping from office/field, etc).
Oh my yes. Hopefully Apple do put a little more focus in their computer division now they have this backing.
Holy crap, YES! This has dogged me since I gave up on archicad in '02 and vectorworks back in '05 or something.
And as was mentioned earlier, an iPad version with Disto input and you'll have yourself one hell of a surveying device!
Next Autodesk need to get a version 3DS Max out and the mac platform will finally be a relevant professional tool again! We need more industry standard programs like this, so the mac can stop being such a joke in the architecture / engineering industry.
Today is a good day!
And as was mentioned earlier, an iPad version with Disto input and you'll have yourself one hell of a surveying device!
Next Autodesk need to get a version 3DS Max out and the mac platform will finally be a relevant professional tool again! We need more industry standard programs like this, so the mac can stop being such a joke in the architecture / engineering industry.
Today is a good day!
May I add: up to date version of ZBrush!
PS. Good news for AutoCAD users.
Good now bring 3ds max to mac as well! If they do that, I can finally get rid of my PC for good!
There is no 64-bit carbon.
The MacBook Pro line was updated just a few weeks ago, maybe you missed that? The actual system requirements for AutoCAD aren't as high as you seem to suggest. I imagine that all Mac Pros made can run it, if you want to work on very complicated designs, then maybe you'll need a graphics card upgrade on the older computers.
Sure. Macs are the future because they finally have a program that has been running on windows since the dawn of CAD.
Bad timeline. CAD software predate Windows. AutoCAD's first versions weren't even on the x86 platform. The first x86 copies ran under DOS. They were slow to get going on Windows.
Seems there are people who hasn't been having "nothing but trouble" with AutoCAD. Maya is in a different industry.
Funny, I didn't see the memo that said Mac sales weren't growing over 30% a year.
In terms of number of computers, CAD of any kind is small potatoes. It's a niche industry.
If the cost of CAD+a computer to run it is a turn-off, then I would guess they can't afford to hire another engineer or CAD operator either. The cost of the software and hardware pales in comparison to the cost of hiring the person that uses it.
Ugh, no offense but I'm growing weary of the "fan boi" and such non-sense. This is MACRumors right? Of course there are Apple fan's here, we welcome them all, from beginner Mac users to "fan's".
OT, I agree that Apple should refocus on their "Prosumer" industry, such as new LED LCD Cinema displays, maybe add Blu-Ray (and not just for movies, but for physical data backup, which does work on my Mac Pro as an after market addition). Although, with the new iMac's, Apple has finally returned desktop grade processors to the iMac line, which does demonstrate a possible desire to strengthen the power to compete with midtowers (remember, Apple has deemed the iMac as a midtower "killer", an all-in-one system that doesn't take up a lot of space and [should] have the same specs as a desktop Dell, etc.). The Mac Pro is a workstation with server grade processors, so when people moan about the Mac Pro being expensive, the processors alone ARE expensive, check out the prices from Intel on newegg.com, last I checked when pricing out the parts for the Mac Pro, it wasn't much more than building one out of pocket.
What has Maya to do with this? And what are those 'friendlier' and 'better' apps?
Actually, that's the sort-of good news from them having left the Mac so long ago -- it pretty much _can't_ be Carbon because they skipped over all the compatibility years. Without any late 90's Mac code, they have to write the Mac code pretty much from scratch anyway, so they wouldn't gain anything from using Carbon.
At least, that's my professional guess. So you may have your wish granted.