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I'd say you're getting your money's worth at that point.
 
I use around 250 megs a month. I listen to internet radio at the gym, in the car, etc.. But I also listen to my songs on the ipod portion a lot, so I suppose it's probably 50/50 driving to work with web radio or with the ipod. ;)
 
A big flaw in this study is personal use vs. business use. Most blackberrys are for businesses. And most people don't use a business phone like they would a personal phone.

Nah - people don't use a Blackberry like they would a personal phone, it has nothing to do with the fact that they have it for their business. If the BB made it easy to do music, web and the rest, people would use it for that.

On the other hand, I don't see how the iPad is going to use as much data per user as the iPhone does. It will not be with users nearly as often, it will not be used for streaming music nearly as often, it will not be hitting email servers on 3G nearly as often.
 
I'd also had to the fact the iPhone users download loads of crap apps they don't use at all.

Interesting. What's using all that data then, if they don't use all the apps?

The blackberry's web browser is adequate enough to check footy scores, quickly gain some info from mobile websites. Why do you need to do more? Can't wait to see Blackberry's webkit browser though.

Yeah, can't wait ;) Maybe they could have had one two years ago? ;)
 
If AT&T saw it as a bad thing, wouldn't they have turned down the iPad instead of agreeing to be its exclusive provider?

What network has an exclusive provider relationship with a netbook or data modem ? Throw on top Apple only putting a radio inside that only works best on their network (in the US) and the shift to a not quite so mainstream SIM card. What exclusivity contract is even necessary?
 
For example, BlackBerry Internet Service compresses data downloaded over the web by up to 80%. That's a pretty big chunk and makes AT&T's and the rest of the carriers very happy. It also cache's a lot of information on the device and on BlackBerry's service.

Prove it

All I need is a shred of evidence that browsing THE SAME web page on a BB results in 20% of the bandwidth usage of the iPhone. Not some mobile optimized page with all the images removed. If I wanted to browse as if it was 1995, I'd go get myself some dial-up and hit the nearest BBS. Show me any evidence that the BIS magically compresses web page text and images so that it displays on the device in reasonable quality at 20% of the bandwidth.

What makes me think I won't get this proof?
 
Prove it

All I need is a shred of evidence that browsing THE SAME web page on a BB results in 20% of the bandwidth usage of the iPhone. Not some mobile optimized page with all the images removed. If I wanted to browse as if it was 1995, I'd go get myself some dial-up and hit the nearest BBS. Show me any evidence that the BIS magically compresses web page text and images so that it displays on the device in reasonable quality at 20% of the bandwidth.

What makes me think I won't get this proof?

It doesn't. The only browers doing that are Opera, Skyfire, and that other ugly browser I forgot the name of. People don't use there BB browser because it's not the real (or close to it) web. Plain and Simple...
 
Not too surprising.

Other phones I've used have felt they put a barrier between me and the web. The iPhone feels more like a small window into it.
 
Prove it

All I need is a shred of evidence that browsing THE SAME web page on a BB results in 20% of the bandwidth usage of the iPhone. Not some mobile optimized page with all the images removed. If I wanted to browse as if it was 1995, I'd go get myself some dial-up and hit the nearest BBS. Show me any evidence that the BIS magically compresses web page text and images so that it displays on the device in reasonable quality at 20% of the bandwidth.

What makes me think I won't get this proof?

The Pocket Surfer is pretty fast and dirt cheap, the company uses proxy servers to downsize the content.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/handhelds/0,39029444,49291604,00.htm

With their UK package, 20 hours per month was free. The proxy might be the reason behind the odd arrangement.
 
Too bad RIM can't do a "Visit one website, get one free" promotion to boost their users' online presence. ;)
 
God I am starting to hate aPPLE, so many lame people have an iPhone, no flash because apple refuse to open it's white papers to adobe no anything that is not making us money. BOO apple BOO..... Steve, wake up. Sorry had it. It looks like casual users use iPhone more than anything else. Although I see that hardcore users are at the same par with iPhone users I wished apple would stop being so evil.
 
Excuse!

This 273 MBs is being used by AT&T as an excused not to invest and improve their service. We just want more 3G coverage AT&T don't listen to Verizon listen to us your customers.
 
God I am starting to hate aPPLE, so many lame people have an iPhone, no flash because apple refuse to open it's white papers to adobe no anything that is not making us money. BOO apple BOO..... Steve, wake up. Sorry had it. It looks like casual users use iPhone more than anything else. Although I see that hardcore users are at the same par with iPhone users I wished apple would stop being so evil.

Love the articulation of your speculation. :rolleyes:
 
I've got to love how people are saying that they "paid" for their unlimited data. You paid for about 5-6GB of cellular data with your 30 bucks but AT&T is not enforcing a cap whereas Verizon, which people on here seem to think are better, has a 5GB cap on data for new generation smartphones like the Droid.

People who stay under 1.5 GB of usage per month on average per month are not the problem. The problem are people who use 6GB+ all the time because they figure that it is "unlimited".

I have news for you people who think that. You might not get charged extra right now but that could change and if you are constantly streaming video on a cellular network, you are clogging it for everyone else around you because the bandwidth is not unlimited and tower capacity is not unlimited.

The intention for "unlimited" plans was not for people to waste bandwidth on their phones as if it was a wired ISP but to save people for paying overage fees when they do go over 5GB in a month because their home ISP is down and they have to tether to get updates. You are not breaking any rules but you are being a ****** to your fellow customers on the same network and same towers. So you should watch out of sea gulls and other birds ******** on your head as you walk outside or you could try being less selfish.
 
Reason: Surfing on the web on the BlackBerry SUCKS!! As long as I have my iPhone for personal use, I don't even pull my BB out to do any business on the Net. Good Riddance!:mad::)
 
Internet on iPhone = good experience
Blackberry = not so good an experience

Download opera mini. Its much faster than the blackberry browser and faster than the safari mobile. Interface is almost identical to iphone on the touchscreen version.
 
With 12 days left in my billing cycle the ATT app is reporting 3568MB usage.

3G is pretty quick in my frequent areas, but even when I'm in a wifi location I never use it anymore. Including home unless using vnc or sync 1password or something.

Why pay $30 a month for something and not use it?

I don't tether. Mainly stream music to phone on way to and from work and when out so technically my data would probably be the same anyway.

I agree with this and it puzzles me that you and I would be considered bandwidth hogs. I use 5-6 GB average per month. I check my email every 15 minutes, send and recieve lots of pictures, watch lots of youtube, stream Pandora, even play bejeweled (which downloads).
 
All I need is a shred of evidence that browsing THE SAME web page on a BB results in 20% of the bandwidth usage of the iPhone. (...snip...) Show me any evidence that the BIS magically compresses web page text and images so that it displays on the device in reasonable quality at 20% of the bandwidth.

The information you seek on the magic is in this document under Content Optimization and Delivery.

The BIS does more than compress web text and crunch images. It also transcodes document and web formats, and even pre-compiles Javascript source to their own byte code representation. (Think how much that would save alone.)

Some size savings examples can be found on the last page of this white paper comparing email attachments which are treated in a similar manner:

For example, a 500K WORD doc might only be 60K sent to a Blackberry.

A 150K JPEG image might require only 11K to a Blackbery because it was first resized and depthed for best presentation on a small screen.

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I hope Consumer Reports isn't defending AT&T after giving them a bad review. I have no pity for AT&T, they just underestimated the power of Apple and now they're paying the price for it. The only way they can redeem themselves in my eyes is to give me unlimited data on my iPad for free, since I'm already paying for it on my iPhone. If they don't start charging more reasonable prices I'm ditching the iPhone and going all iPad, by making my calls from Wi-Fi enabled Skype. If you haven't tried it yet you'll be amazed!!! It's 1,000 times clearer than AT&T, and here I thought Apple just made a cheap speaker.
 
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