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Avid Releases Avid Free DV
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Speaking as someone on the lower end
I am using iMovie for basic editing. I just bought a new AlBook and bought FCE for the $99 mark.
Now I am having some real fun editing. I am not to sure that Avid will have a real impact on the mac side of things.
If I was using Windows.... that would be another issue.
I was also thinking that Macs lead the use on creative people something like 80% to 20%, whereas in the rest of business we only have a 5% tops. I wonder is it becasue the creative people have to do actual work. Whereas the rest of people do not?
I am using iMovie for basic editing. I just bought a new AlBook and bought FCE for the $99 mark.
Now I am having some real fun editing. I am not to sure that Avid will have a real impact on the mac side of things.
If I was using Windows.... that would be another issue.
I was also thinking that Macs lead the use on creative people something like 80% to 20%, whereas in the rest of business we only have a 5% tops. I wonder is it becasue the creative people have to do actual work. Whereas the rest of people do not?
Yes - I absolutly agree. I cannot understand why people are voting negative for this news. I mean - you get a free program. Like it - GOOD. Don't like it - delete it ! So why ever could be this free piece of software be voted as negative.
And they made a OS X version as well !
Re: Did you read the system requirements?
Well iMovie's requirements are a 700Mhz G3/G4
however i have found that it is molasses slow until you get a dual 2324038402THz g31.8 so i would say avid wins the performance mark.
Well iMovie's requirements are a 700Mhz G3/G4
however i have found that it is molasses slow until you get a dual 2324038402THz g31.8 so i would say avid wins the performance mark.
I have some apple scripts that does crossfades with quicktime player(free version). It also does some other... interesting things.
I am contemplating making a shareware ASS app. Is there any interest? Any suggestions of features and price points and desired ETA?
I am contemplating making a shareware ASS app. Is there any interest? Any suggestions of features and price points and desired ETA?
Thats what I was looking for I guess. What would I need to add to make it worth while.
Are doing fades worth a dollar? Would adding a picture in picture be worth 2? Would watermarking be worth another dollar. Could I bring the total up to 5 with text scrolls?
What would it take to get it up to the $15 dollars that people would consider actually paying?
Caution - bad installer hoses syste,s
Yup, my system refused to boot afterwards. I have another drive with OS X installed and I reapplied the (Combo) Mac OS X 10.2.8 updater which fixed it no problems. Not a happy day!
PS received Final Cut Express for free from Apple by sending in my Premiere CDs. thanks Apple!
Yup, my system refused to boot afterwards. I have another drive with OS X installed and I reapplied the (Combo) Mac OS X 10.2.8 updater which fixed it no problems. Not a happy day!
PS received Final Cut Express for free from Apple by sending in my Premiere CDs. thanks Apple!
My System OK, First Impressions
Hey There:
Well, my system is just fine after installing. The interface is rather confusing at first: definitely nothing like iMovie or FCE, which I use constantly. After setting some preferences, I noticed a bit of a slow down after I started capturing some clips. I am using on a 1.25 Ghz iMac with 768 RAM and external 80 GB. I think I will hold on to AVID, and try to learn its quirks but continue to use FCE primarily. It also works well on my 12" Powerbook, and I KNOW my PC friends will be jealous when they see my 'Book can run three different Movie editors. All in all, I think AVID Free is a good product for the price. One thing that was weird is that by default it created the media folder in my Home shared folder. I quickly changed that to my external FW drive and it remembered taht setting. Here's a screenie:
Hey There:
Well, my system is just fine after installing. The interface is rather confusing at first: definitely nothing like iMovie or FCE, which I use constantly. After setting some preferences, I noticed a bit of a slow down after I started capturing some clips. I am using on a 1.25 Ghz iMac with 768 RAM and external 80 GB. I think I will hold on to AVID, and try to learn its quirks but continue to use FCE primarily. It also works well on my 12" Powerbook, and I KNOW my PC friends will be jealous when they see my 'Book can run three different Movie editors. All in all, I think AVID Free is a good product for the price. One thing that was weird is that by default it created the media folder in my Home shared folder. I quickly changed that to my external FW drive and it remembered taht setting. Here's a screenie:
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thanks for the screen shot.
I'm about to lend my imac17" to my boss (who is a pc boy, not by choice, but just because he doesn't know any better). He wants to edit DV movies for the first time, so I think I'll instal avid free, imovie and fc express and just let him use which ever one he likes the most.
I have no doubt it won't be avid free
I'm about to lend my imac17" to my boss (who is a pc boy, not by choice, but just because he doesn't know any better). He wants to edit DV movies for the first time, so I think I'll instal avid free, imovie and fc express and just let him use which ever one he likes the most.
I have no doubt it won't be avid free
"And they released an OSX version as well"
Avid has always been multiplatform - they started on Mac and have always been on Mac.
Avid has always been multiplatform - they started on Mac and have always been on Mac.
Re: Re: Careful installing Avid Free DV
I too, have had problems after installing Avid Free DVD (using latest 10.2.8 update). When I tried to restart I got what appears to be a partial kernel panic, sometimes I'd get the "prohibitory" symbol. In any case, the startup process freezes and I can go no further.
So far, no standard troubleshooting procedures have helped in any way. I suppose I need to look at deleting .ktext files as mentioned in an earlier post but am not certain how to go about doing this.
Avid seems to have no forum on their site re: Avid Free DV; maybe I'm missing something but can't find any forum support there.
I too, have had problems after installing Avid Free DVD (using latest 10.2.8 update). When I tried to restart I got what appears to be a partial kernel panic, sometimes I'd get the "prohibitory" symbol. In any case, the startup process freezes and I can go no further.
So far, no standard troubleshooting procedures have helped in any way. I suppose I need to look at deleting .ktext files as mentioned in an earlier post but am not certain how to go about doing this.
Avid seems to have no forum on their site re: Avid Free DV; maybe I'm missing something but can't find any forum support there.
Re: Re: Re: Careful installing Avid Free DV
Originally posted by mainemike
I too, have had problems after installing Avid Free DVD (using latest 10.2.8 update). When I tried to restart I got what appears to be a partial kernel panic, sometimes I'd get the "prohibitory" symbol. In any case, the startup process freezes and I can go no further.
Just an update, folks. I started up from another drive (has OS 9.2.2 on it) and did a search for all things Avid on the drive that had the startup problems thanks to the DV Free software.
Deleted all Avid files and restarted in Mac OSX....worked like a charm and I'm back in business.
Thanks for Brian for the tip.
Re: Did you read the system requirements?
I installed it on my PowerBook G4 400 and it seems to be funtioning properly. I have been using Avid XPress DV on it for 7 months now without a problem. I have noticed that Avid Free DV is the same code base as the brand new Avid Xpress Pro. (That's why the higher requirments I guess.)
I was able to digitize and run two layers of video with a color effect and a dissolve in realtime. So I guess they just never tested anything lower than the 667mhz Macs.
As I have been an Avid editor for 9 years I can pick this up instantly and start editing since it is identical to the Avid product line. (from Xpress DV to Symphony...$995-$80,000 respectively)
I can see how it would be hard for a beginer to learn this interface. When I was a newbie, it took me 3 months of editing to feel comfortable. Although, once mastered, the workflow is unbeleivable! It is a very efficient interface. The key is use the keyboard commands and you will fly.
Someone mentioned earlier that this is designed to sell their products...that hits the nail on the head. Anyone serious about editing will soon see the limitations in the free iteration. Not being able to do a simple effect like a PIP would drive me insane.
All in all this is a good product. It is a good step up from iMovie. I wish it would run on a G3 so schools could utilize its power instead of iMovie.
I installed it on my PowerBook G4 400 and it seems to be funtioning properly. I have been using Avid XPress DV on it for 7 months now without a problem. I have noticed that Avid Free DV is the same code base as the brand new Avid Xpress Pro. (That's why the higher requirments I guess.)
I was able to digitize and run two layers of video with a color effect and a dissolve in realtime. So I guess they just never tested anything lower than the 667mhz Macs.
As I have been an Avid editor for 9 years I can pick this up instantly and start editing since it is identical to the Avid product line. (from Xpress DV to Symphony...$995-$80,000 respectively)
I can see how it would be hard for a beginer to learn this interface. When I was a newbie, it took me 3 months of editing to feel comfortable. Although, once mastered, the workflow is unbeleivable! It is a very efficient interface. The key is use the keyboard commands and you will fly.
Someone mentioned earlier that this is designed to sell their products...that hits the nail on the head. Anyone serious about editing will soon see the limitations in the free iteration. Not being able to do a simple effect like a PIP would drive me insane.
All in all this is a good product. It is a good step up from iMovie. I wish it would run on a G3 so schools could utilize its power instead of iMovie.
Re: Careful installing Avid Free DV
Count me as one having a problem. It downloaded and installed fine. Now it just plain won't open.
I am on a 400 MHz G3 iMac using 10.2.8 and I don't really have anything else to boot from.
Count me as one having a problem. It downloaded and installed fine. Now it just plain won't open.
I am on a 400 MHz G3 iMac using 10.2.8 and I don't really have anything else to boot from.
Re: Did you read the system requirements?
Should have read more. I guess I will be staying with iMovie for now.
Should have read more. I guess I will be staying with iMovie for now.
It's on my system. I run an FCP shop. I download everything all the time. But I'm pretty good at keeping my Mac running clean. Don't usually have any problems. The Avid Free runs great.
IF you know Avid and FCP as I do, it's a great resource. IF someone needs to just do a rough cut in DV of some cloned digi-beta tapes, then it's great to have Avid Free if they insist on taking the project to symphony or adrenaline for on-lining.
I still freelance Avid a little, so it's good to have the program around to keep my skills up to date too.
Nuts
You guys are all sort of nuts. Half as many negative votes as positive? Do you guys like having limited choices? Do you like no competition? How can this possibly be a bad thing? If it makes video editing easier on Windows then maybe that will push Apple to do things like (as was mentioned before) add a second video channel to iMovie to make it competetive? I mean seriously.
You guys are all sort of nuts. Half as many negative votes as positive? Do you guys like having limited choices? Do you like no competition? How can this possibly be a bad thing? If it makes video editing easier on Windows then maybe that will push Apple to do things like (as was mentioned before) add a second video channel to iMovie to make it competetive? I mean seriously.
NEW AVID DOWNLOAD AVAILABLE
" If you are interested in the program, wait a week or so to see if theres an update. "
Seems they posted a fix last night:
http://www.avid.com/community/forums/Forum41/HTML/000054.html
"As of 5:20 p.m. EST 7 October 2003, a new Macintosh version of Avid Free DV is now available for download.
If you have previously registered and downloaded, please go to the download page, enter the email address you used for registration, and click the Submit button. You will be able to download without re-submitting all your information again.
If you have not previously registered, please complete the registration page to download."
" If you are interested in the program, wait a week or so to see if theres an update. "
Seems they posted a fix last night:
http://www.avid.com/community/forums/Forum41/HTML/000054.html
"As of 5:20 p.m. EST 7 October 2003, a new Macintosh version of Avid Free DV is now available for download.
If you have previously registered and downloaded, please go to the download page, enter the email address you used for registration, and click the Submit button. You will be able to download without re-submitting all your information again.
If you have not previously registered, please complete the registration page to download."
Re: Nuts
I agree that anyone who would see the availability of Avid Free DV in a negative light is nuts. If those people can imagine Apple offering a free version of Final Cut Express with similar limitations then maybe they would appreciate Avid's latest product more.
As for Apple responding to this by incorporating more tracks in iMovie, I am not sure that would benefit the program. iMovie is the non-video editor's video editor. Multiple tracks would just make the program more complicated.
I would argue that Apple needs to optimise the Final Cut Pro engine to the point where it can perform real-time effects and renders as well or better than Avid Xpress DV and Free.
I agree that anyone who would see the availability of Avid Free DV in a negative light is nuts. If those people can imagine Apple offering a free version of Final Cut Express with similar limitations then maybe they would appreciate Avid's latest product more.
As for Apple responding to this by incorporating more tracks in iMovie, I am not sure that would benefit the program. iMovie is the non-video editor's video editor. Multiple tracks would just make the program more complicated.
I would argue that Apple needs to optimise the Final Cut Pro engine to the point where it can perform real-time effects and renders as well or better than Avid Xpress DV and Free.
I just think it is cool that avid even released a free software package. Avid has always been expensive so this is really a switch for them if you ask me.