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gtjeta

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Three weeks ago I bought an Apple watch series 3, and was extremely happy with it.

Six days after buying it, I went driving to take my children from piano lessons and got out of my car. Then I noticed there was a tiny glass laying on my clothes. After looking around and not seeing anything broken, I went for the children. When I came back to the car I looked at the watch and noticed its glass was broken. No conscious striking to anything, and if it was hit by anything, it was for sure a soft hit. I have been wearing an apple watch for several years (I bought it before it was sold in Spain), and it is in pristine condition.

I called Apple and they told me to go to Puerta del Sol Apple Store Genius Bar. I have to say it was, by long, my worst experience there.

First I arrived early, like 30 minutes, and got delayed more than 45 minutes to be attended. Then a first Genius, after describing him exactly what happened, told me glass was not covered by warranty, and told me I would have to pay 250 € to repair it. I was not happy with the solution, so it was escalated to a manager, who, after listening to my description asked another person in the store to try to give me an special offer, as I was so unlucky to break my apple watch. Then this person gave me an special offer of 329 €, and said that it was the best offer she could do. Higher than the apparently nominal rate!. When I told her about it, she told me the initial Genius had been offering something for what he was applying an additional discount he was not supposed to provide. Afterwards, she went to talk to the previous Genius and came back with a reduced cost of 205 €! I said ok to his offer, but felt they were playing with me. Last Wednesday I went again to the Apple Store, and they changed again the price, as the price they told me was without VAT, which is illegal in retail in Spain. Afterwards they explained there is no special offers in Apple, they can’t do anything, and they even called me by phone to apologize, but no change. I paid 249€, the regular price. And lost like two hours discussing with people that said they understood me but changed nothing.

In general I feel the watch itself is too fragile for everyday use. It is the first time in my life I break a watch … or a phone!


After spending a lot of money in Apple equipment (both for me, my family and my university department), and thinking their retail and warranty service was great, I now need to say the durability of the products is much worse than a few years ago, and the service, at least in Madrid, is simply bad. This very same days I bought an iPad Pro for my work, but not there.
 
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Not knowing the circumstances of how your watch glass broke, you really can't blame the durability, because you're not entirely sure yourself of what caused the damage.

However, someone like myself who has quite a bit of experience with the Apple watches, both Sport and Stainless models, The durability has exceeded my expectations in terms of abuse. I have never broken a display or cracked the glass, but I feel the Apple Watch is fairly rugged for everyday use.

The Ion-X Glass used on the Apple Watch sport is similar to that of the iPhone display. Which I feel is fairly durable.
 
Apple don’t hide the cost of repair, in fact quite the opposite giving they want to sell AppleCare+

Whilst we’d all like accidental damage replaced for free, it’d push up the cost of the device and so we’d all end up paying for it.
 
Well, in Spain we do not have AppleCare or AppleCare+ available for watches, neither AppleCare+ for iPhones or iPads.

About not knowing the circumstances of breakage. I was driving and got out of my car. I cannot think of anything rough there (all surrounded by plastic, basically) resulting in AW breaking. And I felt no hit at all. The problem with the glass, obviously for me after seeing this, is that even a small hit maybe with the car door, at a given angle, may break it. Notice the part of the screen that was broken was at the bottom, so it is something unbelievable for me as it it quite difficult to think on which kind of movement lead to the breakage.
 
Well, in Spain we do not have AppleCare or AppleCare+ available for watches, neither AppleCare+ for iPhones or iPads.

About not knowing the circumstances of breakage. I was driving and got out of my car. I cannot think of anything rough there (all surrounded by plastic, basically) resulting in AW breaking. And I felt no hit at all. The problem with the glass, obviously for me after seeing this, is that even a small hit maybe with the car door, at a given angle, may break it. Notice the part of the screen that was broken was at the bottom, so it is something unbelievable for me as it it quite difficult to think on which kind of movement lead to the breakage.

Unfortunate, but buy yourself a hard case to avoid this from happening again.

$1 will save you $300 later.

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About not knowing the circumstances of breakage. I was driving and got out of my car. I cannot think of anything rough there (all surrounded by plastic, basically) resulting in AW breaking. And I felt no hit at all. The problem with the glass, obviously for me after seeing this, is that even a small hit maybe with the car door, at a given angle, may break it. Notice the part of the screen that was broken was at the bottom, so it is something unbelievable for me as it it quite difficult to think on which kind of movement lead to the breakage.

Even your not entirely sure if it happened in your car or not. Regardless, perhaps you can post a picture of what the Apple Watch looks like with the broken display.
 
Analogy on a bigger scale: You just bought a brand new Mustang and come out from the shopping mall to see someone ran into the driver's door. You have no idea what happened and it was in no way your fault. Do you think Ford should repair the car at no cost?

Accidents (known or unknown) are not warranty issues and not the responsibility of the manufacture no matter how or why it happens.
 
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This sounds exactly like what happened to me...I have a small scratch deep into the glass which I have absolutely no idea how I got as I have treated it with kid gloves.
 
Analogy on a bigger scale: You just bought a brand new Mustang and come out from the shopping mall to see someone ran into the driver's door. You have no idea what happened and it was in no way your fault. Do you think Ford should repair the car at no cost?

Accidents (known or unknown) are not warranty issues and not the responsibility of the manufacture no matter how or why it happens.

I think you are not understanding me. I am not saying anything against their warranty use. I am saying two other things:

- the watch is brittle if it breaks without any important hit, in normal live situations. It was in the car or going out from it, I am completely sure.
- I lost much time in the store, were given 4 different prices for the repair, and finally got the same price as they gave me at the start. And they told me several lies along the line.
 
- the watch is brittle if it breaks without any important hit, in normal live situations. It was in the car or going out from it, I am completely sure.

The Apple Watch is only "Brittle", because this happened to you. But there are lots of threads were others have put their Apple Watch through stressful situations, where it still operates without having any severe damage. So even yourself, you're not sure how it happened, even though you think it happened in your car with a 'Soft hit'. I think you're using your frustration to blame the Apple Watch, even though you're not sure yourself exactly how the damage occurred and what you hit it on.
 
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Sorry for your experience. I recently had a very unpleasant visit to a Genius Bar here in Scotland regarding my iPhone so I understand it can be frustrating.

I wouldn’t expect too much resolution or understanding here though. I am more than ever convinced this forum is populated with regulars who are here solely to deflect and rubbish any suggestion that Apple may not always get it right. They don’t necessarily work for Apple but they appear to fantasise that they do and we all know if they did they would be known as ‘jobsworth’ however they do a grand job on here of flying the flag for Apple and that gives them comfort ;)

To some on here apple are the holy grail and if one or two folks come here with any negativity towards the products, service or even corporation then there will be x10 more who will swoop in to shut the negativity down and remind you that it’s all your fault. Regardless of the thousands of pounds you spend, apple owe you no loyalty and there are plenty here on MacRumors to remind you, should you forget.
 
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Anything worn on a human daily will take it knocks and bumps. Even without realizing it.

This, twice and three times. I don't buy AppleCare or AppleCare+ generally, but on the Watch, the cost of AC+ and the cost of the co-pay for damage, compared to the cost of repairs, when you factor in the likelihood of the Watch getting banged into things, makes the decision to buy AC+ a no-brainer IMO. OP, I understand you apparently did not have that choice.
 
Wow. I will frame it as polite as possible: if your Apple Watch has a scratch or the glass is broken then it is entirely your fault unless the Watch was delivered in this condition. There is no "bad service" at the Apple Store to blame. The number of Apple products or how much money you spent for them don't play a role either. It doesn't matter that you cannot remember or imagine how you broke it. What kind of thinking is that??
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I haven't bumped or banged mine
How exactly are you able to determine this? A human isn't able to notice if they bang their watch anywhere 24/7. It's just not possible.
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To some on here apple are the holy grail and if one or two folks come here with any negativity towards the products, service or even corporation then there will be x10 more who will swoop in to shut the negativity down and remind you that it’s all your fault.
That is just wrong. By your number of posts you aren't even a regular forum user. If you knew this forum you'd know that there are actually a lot of people here that criticize Apple devices, software, functions, service, you name it. What you're saying is just a flat generalization. I'll leave this here for you:

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Yes, people on here are happy enough to criticise Apple when it merits it; in no way is everyone here a fanboy.
 
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