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yanki01

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Looks like the AW1 are officially gone and with the base models they cracked them open, give them a new chip and voila! No SS models, looks like only sport models. still don't think it's worth getting the AW2. hunting for a SS AW1 now.
 
Smart move. Killing the gold models as well, the ceramic is a much more affordable option for the person who wants to have top of the line and much more practical
 
woah, didn't notice that. $1249 & $1299 for the ceramic.
 
Curious; why are you hunting for a stainless steel AW1 now? Is it just because of price? All of the reviews seem to indicate the s2 SiP is a significant improvement in terms of performance.

I've always been cautious of Apple's first generation products. They always seem to have the shortest shelf life. iPhone 2g, iPad 1, etc. The iPad 2, for example, will run iOS 10 and a pretty full gamut of iPad apps. It's still dated of course, but it's far more capable and just one generation newer. The original iPad is stuck 5 generations back on the Operating System (iOS 5), and a great deal of apps either won't run, or you're stuck on a much older version because of that OS limitation. I realize it's quite an old device, but the difference between that and the very next generation is staggering. I fear that might end up being the same with the AW1. I don't plan to upgrade my Apple Watch very frequently, which is why I sprung for the stainless steel Series 2.
 
Curious; why are you hunting for a stainless steel AW1 now? Is it just because of price? All of the reviews seem to indicate the s2 SiP is a significant improvement in terms of performance.

I've always been cautious of Apple's first generation products. They always seem to have the shortest shelf life. iPhone 2g, iPad 1, etc. The iPad 2, for example, will run iOS 10 and a pretty full gamut of iPad apps. It's still dated of course, but it's far more capable and just one generation newer. The original iPad is stuck 5 generations back on the Operating System (iOS 5), and a great deal of apps either won't run, or you're stuck on a much older version because of that OS limitation. I realize it's quite an old device, but the difference between that and the very next generation is staggering. I fear that might end up being the same with the AW1. I don't plan to upgrade my Apple Watch very frequently, which is why I sprung for the stainless steel Series 2.

I think people are getting confused on the series 1 name, the first generation was series 0, series 1 and 2 just launched. Series 2 is better still, but series 1 got a new processor to help out.
 
Still same point, people are getting them confused. He's looking for a series 0 ss

"Series 0" is just something that tech journalists and forum users have 'made up'. The first generation was the "Apple Watch". Apple has three watch models they've released (not including variants like 'Sport' or 'Edition');

  • Apple Watch
  • Apple Watch Series 1
  • Apple Watch Series 2

I've never seen any Apple marketing or literature that lists it as "Series 0". That's just something a few journalists got started to make things easier.

It IS confusing. Series 0, or Apple Watch 1, or Apple Watch (First Generation), whatever we 'make up' is fine; because it's a super confusing naming scheme. But there's nothing "official".

And, yes; that was my point to OP. Why does he want an original Apple Watch (or Apple Watch 1 or Series 0 or whatever you want to call it). The performance jump to the Series 1 is huge, and probably well worth it; even if he doesn't need a Series 2. Unless he meant Series 1.
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False. No A5 device runs iOS 10.

You're correct, I was mistaken; sorry! However, the iPad 2 WILL still run several generations newer software than the original iPad. Likewise the first generation iPhone was abandoned much quicker than later models.

Point being; that's why I waited a year. Since I knew I was probably going to be on a 2-3 year upgrade cycle with a watch; it seemed the second generation was a safe bet. And it was. The upgrade is pretty significant, with a big performance upgrade. Most reviewers calling it what the Apple Watch was always supposed to be. Namely, that apps launch quick enough to be useful.
 
just curious on why they would only offer series 1 in the sport models. meant to say i was hunting for a series 0 but referred it as the AW1.

I was looking at series 0 because of the good deals. snagged a brand new 42mm SS w/ leather loop for $350. got the wife a 38mm SS w/ link bracelet for $250.
 
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...was curious to why they didn't offer SS for the series 1....
Actually that is simple. The Series 1 is a low cost attention getter more for 'bait and switch' up-selling to the Series 2. Series 1 is just so Apple can advertise the :apple:Watch starting at $269 so there is no purpose to a Series 1 SS.
 
just curious on why they would only offer series 1 in the sport models. meant to say i was hunting for a series 0 but referred it as the AW1.

Well, the Series 2 is available in SS and they've kept the same $549/599 base price point. Were you somehow hoping for a cheaper Series 1 SS, which doesn't exist?

It IS confusing. Series 0, or Apple Watch 1, or Apple Watch (First Generation), whatever we 'make up' is fine; because it's a super confusing naming scheme. But there's nothing "official".

Right, they didn't really give us an easy way to denote the 1st generation AW. Officially, they're called simply Apple Watch, Apple Watch Sport and Apple Watch Edition. This is really no different from the 1st generation iPhone so our made-up names for it are "Original iPhone" and "iPhone 2G."
 
Well, the Series 2 is available in SS and they've kept the same $549/599 base price point. Were you somehow hoping for a cheaper Series 1 SS, which doesn't exist?

no, just curious to why they didn't offer series 1 in SS. i know the S2 is offered in SS. I wasn't going to pay full price for any of them, just curious.
 
no, just curious to why they didn't offer series 1 in SS. i know the S2 is offered in SS. I wasn't going to pay full price for any of them, just curious.

The series 1 is an entry-level model. In the same way the base model MacBook's (not to be confused with MacBook Pro's) have never had much upgradeability. It's just a base model, made to be as affordable as possible.

Having options adds cost, too. It adds to the logistical challenge of getting it out the door. It's one model, with a few band choices, and that's it. All of that keeps the price nice and trimmed.
 
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