AW Series 2: do I need to "close" it before washing?

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  1. Robbenisland macrumors member

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    My previous AW Series 0 SS I just cleaned under running water. Do I now need to close the speaker every time just like when I would go swimming and open it again with the crown to expel the water?
     
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    +1

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  3. Resqu2 macrumors 6502a

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    What your really doing is locking the screen to keep water from doing weird things like making a call or sending a text, water on the screen can act like your touching the screen. After you exit the water you turn the crown and the speakers make a series of sounds to eject the water. Your not really closing then.
     
  4. Robbenisland thread starter macrumors member

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    Super helpful. Many thanks!
     
  5. broadbean macrumors 6502a

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    Interestingly, my Nike+ Watch I got a few days ago died after the first pool swim yesterday. Today when talking with Apple Support, they mentioned while it's swim proof, liquid damage is not covered by warranty. Now I don't exactly know how that would happen - eg what if you didn't lock the Watch and pressed the buttons, rotated the crown while under water. Would that do it?

    I hope what they really meant was to submerge the Watch too deep and/or for too long.
     
  6. moxxham macrumors 6502

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    Putting it in swim mode doesn't physically lock anything in the watch. All it does is stop touch response on the screen. Once you turn the crown to take it out of swim mode, it pushes water out of the speaker.

    You can swim with or without putting into the mode from control centre or a swim workout.

    The only purpose of that mode is to get water out of the speaker so the sound isn't muffled.
     
  7. broadbean macrumors 6502a

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    Have you seen anywhere Apple suggesting you couldn't press the buttons or rotate the crown while under water?
     
  8. Resqu2 macrumors 6502a

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    So is Apple going to do anything to help you out? I was really hoping to swim with mine but not so sure I will after reading your post.
     
  9. broadbean macrumors 6502a

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    I just returned it for a refund today. Gonna think about if I wanted to buy another one while I wait for more user reports swimming with Series 2.

    In the few short days I had it, the Nike+/Series 2 impressed me first with its battery life (pretty much lasted more than 2 days from first pairing, wasn't even fully charged), and while at the pool I was probably 15 to 20 metres away from my iPhone SE and I had texts coming in that I could read. Can't remember if the phone was connected to the location's Wi-Fi as it needed you to manually accept to connect to its network.

    I also had no issues showering, so I dunno I was just unlucky with my Watch. I want to make sure pressing the buttons and rotating the crown while in the water shouldn't affect the water resistance. Afterall I was only standing in chest height water at the time and if I swam to the bottom it was only around 1.5m deep.
     
  10. Julien, Oct 31, 2016
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    It is covered by law (advertising) and by IOS licensing agreement.

    http://www.iso.org/iso/home/news_index/news_archive/news.htm?refid=Ref1367

     
  11. jaypr macrumors member

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    Did my first one mile swim today using the Nike+ watch. Everything seems to be still working OK.
     
  12. BarracksSi Suspended

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    Among traditional watches, it's rare to find one which the manufacturer says it's okay to use the crown and pushers underwater. I can think of just one off the top of my head, and I can't even remember exactly which model (possibly an Omega Seamaster chronograph).

    I would not recommend pushing the AW's button or turning its crown underwater.
     
  13. broadbean macrumors 6502a

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    My "diver's" Watch from waaaaay back locks the crown - you screw it tight, but that went deeper, and if Apple advertises "swim proof", they should make it so.
     
  14. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Eight, half-hour pools swims so far in October and no problems. Quite a few showers too. 42mm SS.
     
  15. wvayens macrumors member

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    I've been swimming 2-3 times per week for over a month now, anywhere from 60-90 minutes in the pool with a variety of strokes and drills and not a problem. I really like not having to count laps in my head. A flick of the wrist and I can see just what I've done so far.
     
  16. ZebraDude macrumors 6502a

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    Only Apple would have the "Courage" to market a product as a "swimmers watch" but not cover water damage. A staffer at the "Genius Bar" told me the same thing "water damage not covered on the Series 2" WTH???
     
  17. rob.james.arias macrumors regular

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    Did you dive or jump into the water with the watch on?
     
  18. gugy macrumors 68030

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    Awesome to hear. I am planning to do the same. By any chance, does the AW do a good job losing different strokes? I alternate back/breast stroke sometimes when I start to get tired doing freestyle. Thanks
     
  19. Lennyvalentin macrumors 6502a

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    When I still used Casio digital watches, the manufacturer's recommendation was to not push any buttons for models rated less than 100m water resistance. 100m or more was OK to push buttons underwater. I typically bought G-Shock watches, which were rated for 200m WR, and fully capable to be used underwater. After all, they were rated for scubadiving.

    Why would warranty cover water damage? Warranty doesn't cover getting-run-over-by-your-car damage either. Warranty is for manufacturing defects or similar, not typically user-induced damage.
     
  20. Julien macrumors G3

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    Because Apple says it is "safe to wear" in water so if there is water ingress it MUST be covered because it is a manufacture defect and MUST meet the ISO's 22810 ATM5 standard. Apple doesn't say it is safe to run over with a car. Following Apple's usage instructions is NOT "...user-induced damage..." Apple has covered the :apple:Watch S0 since launch day for water ingress anyway.
     
  21. Lennyvalentin macrumors 6502a

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    @Julien
    Obviously Apple doesn't HAVE to cover water damage, as they reportedly aren't covering water damage. If they had to cover water damage, it would not say otherwise in the warranty disclaimer...

    "Safe to wear" is within the specs of the device, by the way. Obviously if you go diving with it, the seals will most likely fail and your watch will flood. As Apple can't tell from a dead watch what happened to it, they don't cover water damage. Just like they're not covering water damage to iphones, macs and so on either.

    You might be able to take out insurance for your watch though. Or your home insurance might cover it. My home insurance covered me breaking my iphone last year, for example.
     
  22. Julien macrumors G3

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    NO, Apple MUST cover or be in violation of their ISO licensing agreement. While you may be new to :apple:Watch they have covered the the S0 since launch day for water ingress despite what the wording of the warranty says. There are MANY instances/threads of people getting their watch replaced for water ingress.


    http://www.iso.org/iso/home/news_index/news_archive/news.htm?refid=Ref1367

     
  23. broadbean macrumors 6502a

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    I'd like to know from Apple whether I could use my Watch while in the water, and under what condition like depth, length of time etc. eg respond to a Message, press or turn the Digital Crown, or press the Side Button. I don't mind if the answer is no, I just wanted to be sure.

    Also this water resistance thing about how long it could stay under water - if I raised the Watch above water, does the the allowable amount of time restart from zero?
     

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