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I set up WatchOS 7 on my AW S4 yesterday and turned on sleep tracking. It wanted me to make a sleep schedule so I put in two days where I know I can have a set time to sleep. The other days it's impossible for me to schedule sleep due to my work.

So I went to sleep last night and woke up about seven hours later but sleep tracking shows nothing. What am I doing wrong?
 
Mine worked a few days ago, but I wore it again last night in the sleep mode but it tracked nothing. Did the wake up alarm but no summary and no data in the health app.
 
I set up WatchOS 7 on my AW S4 yesterday and turned on sleep tracking. It wanted me to make a sleep schedule so I put in two days where I know I can have a set time to sleep. The other days it's impossible for me to schedule sleep due to my work.

So I went to sleep last night and woke up about seven hours later but sleep tracking shows nothing. What am I doing wrong?

Kind of stupid to ask, but did you wear your watch to sleep?
 
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Kind of stupid to ask, but did you wear your watch to sleep?
Yes. I’m using a sleep tracking app called pillow now. I think for the Apple sleep tracking app to work you have to have the sleep event scheduled.
 
If you don’t have schedule on that day there is a Sleep mode on CC on the watch that you can activate it.
 
The Apple Watch doesn’t automatically detect sleep. You need to enable sleep tracking, either by setting a schedule or using the control center icon on the phone or the watch to manually start it.
 
The Apple Watch doesn’t automatically detect sleep. You need to enable sleep tracking, either by setting a schedule or using the control center icon on the phone or the watch to manually start it.
Ah well that sucks. A sleep tracker that can’t detect sleep 😂
 
Yeah, I'd highly recommend autosleep - it will detect sleep and record it to Apple Health using your Apple Watch data - without any action on your part.

I say this after having tested and used Apple's sleep features. While it works for me, I too have had it not report data until awhile after I woke up. If I wake up before I'm supposed to sometimes it glitches out, doesn't report anything, then eventually puts something in.

I've got auto sleep uninstalled but it can run side by side with Apple's sleep features - but I am seriously considering reinstalling it because the sleep info is far more useful.

Because I work at home, I've been able to get Apple sleep to work pretty regularly. I just wish it had more data, and in an easier to see form.
 
The app should natively be able to detect sleep much like AutoSleep.

As an additional note, I always keep my watch in silent mode. Much like how Bedtime used to work, Apple needs to have a setting where the watch would wake you with haptics while the phone would still use an audible alarm.
 
There are definitely some issues with auto sleep tracking. I haven’t used autosleep, but I was using a different sleep tracker a few years ago and I ran into problems because I would often lay in bed and watch a show or a movie before I went to sleep, but apparently I didn’t move much as I was watching because the sleep tracker would often count that time as sleep time even though I was definitely awake.

Is anyone having problems with autosleep having false positives like that?
 
I set up WatchOS 7 on my AW S4 yesterday and turned on sleep tracking. It wanted me to make a sleep schedule so I put in two days where I know I can have a set time to sleep. The other days it's impossible for me to schedule sleep due to my work.

So I went to sleep last night and woke up about seven hours later but sleep tracking shows nothing. What am I doing wrong?

from what i can tell so far... you MUST have sleep scheduled OR you must manually press the sleep button either in the control panel of the watch OR your iPhone when you lay down to sleep.

There are some caveats....

1. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you actually fall asleep at 1130... it will properly document that.
2. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you actually fall asleep at 1030... it will ALSO document that properly so long as your sleep continues into your window beginning at 11pm.
3. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you take a nap from 7 to 9pm... it will not document that because no part of it occurred in your sleep window.
4. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you feel like taking a nap at 7pm, so at 645pm you press the sleep button in the control panel of your watch and actually fall asleep at 7 and wake up at 9pm... it will properly document that because you alerted the system you planned to sleep outside your scheduled window with the button.
5. lets say you are scheduled to wake up at 7am but wakeup at 630a... it will properly document that.
6. lets say you are scheduled to wake up at 7am but wakeup at 8am instead... it will properly document that.

You HAVE to schedule sleep is the bottom line unless you want to manually press the sleep button when you climb in bed each night. You don't need to be super accurate, just schedule sleep around the time you might go to bed and so long as some part of your sleep period touches it, it will accurately capture your start time even if early or late compared to your schedule.

Another thing to know is you can set a weekly sleep schedule (for example I set 1130-630) but then everyday at anytime during the day you can go to the sleep app on the watch itself and quickly change your estimates FOR THAT DAY ONLY, like a 1 day override.

This IS frustrating. Fitbit captures sleep with ZERO interaction and no requirement to set a time. It will get naps, everything and you do nothing. It is very, very accurate and you don't have to do a thing. Autosleep an app you can put on the Apple Watch monitors normal movement data from your watch and it too can capture all your sleep just like a Fitbit with no interaction. Any mistakes you can just change or remove after the fact but it is 99.9% accurate. I find the built in Apple Watch Sleep system accurate but very, very fussy requiring you to have everything set. I think the idea is to try and force better sleep hygiene and make you think about when you should sleep, prepare your "wind down" for sleep etc. but if you just want something that monitors your behavior without you needing to do anything and without trying to modify your behavior it isn't the greatest system.

I'm sure they will monitor how many people use it and I suspect they will make it more transparent when they see we aren't a bunch of sleep monitoring nuts.
 
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from what i can tell so far... you MUST have sleep scheduled OR you must manually press the sleep button either in the control panel of the watch OR your iPhone when you lay down to sleep.

There are some caveats....

1. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you actually fall asleep at 1130... it will properly document that.
2. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you actually fall asleep at 1030... it will ALSO document that properly so long as your sleep continues into your window beginning at 11pm.
3. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you take a nap from 7 to 9pm... it will not document that because no part of it occurred in your sleep window.
4. lets say you schedule your sleep to start at 11pm but you feel like taking a nap at 7pm, so at 645pm you press the sleep button in the control panel of your watch and actually fall asleep at 7 and wake up at 9pm... it will properly document that because you alerted the system you planned to sleep outside your scheduled window with the button.
5. lets say you are scheduled to wake up at 7am but wakeup at 630a... it will properly document that.
6. lets say you are scheduled to wake up at 7am but wakeup at 8am instead... it will properly document that.

You HAVE to schedule sleep is the bottom line unless you want to manually press the sleep button when you climb in bed each night. You don't need to be super accurate, just schedule sleep around the time you might go to bed and so long as some part of your sleep period touches it, it will accurately capture your start time even if early or late compared to your schedule.

Another thing to know is you can set a weekly sleep schedule (for example I set 1130-630) but then everyday at anytime during the day you can go to the sleep app on the watch itself and quickly change your estimates FOR THAT DAY ONLY, like a 1 day override.

This IS frustrating. Fitbit captures sleep with ZERO interaction and no requirement to set a time. It will get naps, everything and you do nothing. It is very, very accurate and you don't have to do a thing. Autosleep an app you can put on the Apple Watch monitors normal movement data from your watch and it too can capture all your sleep just like a Fitbit with no interaction. Any mistakes you can just change or remove after the fact but it is 99.9% accurate. I find the built in Apple Watch Sleep system accurate but very, very fussy requiring you to have everything set. I think the idea is to try and force better sleep hygiene and make you think about when you should sleep, prepare your "wind down" for sleep etc. but if you just want something that monitors your behavior without you needing to do anything and without trying to modify your behavior it isn't the greatest system.

I'm sure they will monitor how many people use it and I suspect they will make it more transparent when they see we aren't a bunch of sleep monitoring nuts.
The problem is with my work schedule it's impossibe for me to schedule specific hours for sleep. I suspect most normal people with 9-5 jobs won't have this issue though. I use an app called Pillow and it automaticly notices when I'm sleeping and logs it. I took a nap in a chair and it counted that.
 
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The problem is with my work schedule it's impossibe for me to schedule specific hours for sleep. I suspect most normal people with 9-5 jobs won't have this issue though. I use an app called Pillow and it automaticly notices when I'm sleeping and logs it. I took a nap in a chair and it counted that.

i think that's the solution, use an app like Pillow or Autosleep... it uses the same data as the built in sleep tracker and doesn't use more power. the only thing you "lose" out on is things like automatically turning off the display at a certain time, etc. which are pretty meaningless. those 3rd party apps will file your sleep data in the Health app in the exact same way as Apple Sleep.
 
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