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Next thing are the sensors.. heart beat sensor - sure. But blood oxygen sensor? I never needed it, and won't need unless I have some kind of emergency, same for ECG, or is there something I can do with this data?
The sensors are able to detect serious heart conditions like arrhythmias that don't always cause obvious symptoms. Better for someone to learn they have Afib from their Apple watch and have their doctor prescribe an anticoagulant than to walk around undiagnosed and not learn they have the condition until suffering a massive stroke.
 
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Yea the battery is pretty good. I am really trying hard to like the watch, but just can’t get to it..
I find step counter very useful but dont need 800$ watch for that.. Might sell it soon, I really dont know, it is more of a nuisance than valuable addition.
Apples pricing is starting to hurt its bottom line. They are constantly pricing consumers out of owning apple products and sending them to competitors. Where it is much cheaper, easier in most case to replace and repair or upgrade.
And in most cases does EXACTLY what you need it to do.

The Apple Watch Ultra might cost $15-20 to actually manufacture. I understand research and development. Apple could charge $249 for the Apple Watch Ultra and still make plenty of profit.

Foxconn’s CEO outed the cost to make some of apples biggest products. And it costs a a 10th to produce over its MSRP.
 
lol

If you want your fitness tracker to lie to you, more power to you!

Truth hurts sometimes -- but it might be what we actually need to hear!
;):p
If you think it’s “truth” that a 10 miler is unproductive, I’d hate to train with you…
 
If you think it’s “truth” that a 10 miler is unproductive, I’d hate to train with you…

I was mainly joking and keeping it lighthearted…

On a more seriously note, additional context is needed to understand the overall picture of why his watch might have said that at that time.

Garmins in particular need consistent wear and usage over a period of time to understand you and give good feedback and recommendations.
 
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But the OP has also asked a question that has been asked dozens of times before, in these forums. He could just have read those threads and would have gotten the same answers.

Also, it‘s kinda amazing how many people buy stuff without a clear idea what they‘re going to use it for or how it will be better for certain tasks than other stuff they already own.
 
Exactly. The OP posited a very innocuous question, but some of the replies.... *sigh*

I often wonder why some people can get so passive aggressively defensive about their stuff.
Thing is, apparently OP did not do their research prior to buying the AWU2 … could have come here and ask, now we are presented with another thread shy AW is no good and “pointless” …
And so quite frankly, people here are entitled to their responses just as OP is to post a new thread…
 
Don't look at me. I have a Timex Indiglo. It tells time, which is all I want. It's also small and sits nicely on my wrist.
 
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Apples pricing is starting to hurt its bottom line. They are constantly pricing consumers out of owning apple products and sending them to competitors. Where it is much cheaper, easier in most case to replace and repair or upgrade.
And in most cases does EXACTLY what you need it to do.

The Apple Watch Ultra might cost $15-20 to actually manufacture. I understand research and development. Apple could charge $249 for the Apple Watch Ultra and still make plenty of profit.

Foxconn’s CEO outed the cost to make some of apples biggest products. And it costs a a 10th to produce over its MSRP.
That (bolded) I call just BS.
Can you provide a link to that CEO comment?
 
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Hey guys..
I bought AWU2 two months ago as my first apple watch, and ever since I am struggling to like them and make use of them. Now, I am not a sedantary type and a move quite a lot, but it's not like AW is making my workouts any better, I perform the same because I know what to do. Is there something I am missing? It feels more like nuisance to start workout every time I work out only to have it logged so that my number in Fitness app do not suck...
Next thing are the sensors.. heart beat sensor - sure. But blood oxygen sensor? I never needed it, and won't need unless I have some kind of emergency, same for ECG, or is there something I can do with this data?

For real I don't understand it, everything the watch does I can do on my phone, and the sensors and mostly never needer. Or is there something I am missing here? What are your use cases? Need some inspiration maybe. Thanks
read through this:

and for fitness:
 
Since about December 2022, I've been on the "dumb phone" trend trying to use my iPhone less.

However, all the dumb phones are just too dumb and don't sync well to my iPhone. And the best dumb phones are overpriced.

So, while also being a great health/fitness tracker, Watch serves as a much less distracting replacement/extension of my iPhone.

There are also a lot of scenarios where I want to read or answer a message or take a call, and using the double-tap gestures or Siri makes this much more convenient than picking up my iPhone, jumping into the iMessage and typing the message.

The "hands free" iPhone extension, media controls, and Apple Pay on Watch are enough reasons to keep using it even if it weren't a ton of other things.

If you're the kind of person who's constantly in front of a bigger screen, Mac, iPhone, iPad, TV whatever, then there's not a lot of sense in wearing a tiny, much less capable version of your iPhone on your wrist.
 
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I'll wear my AW when going outside, but my main use for it being absolutely honest is as a volume control for the Airpods. Yes I'll look at appointments texts etc but that's the smallest of conveniences. It doesn't bring anything new worthwhile to my guided workouts, etc since I don't really rely on potentially very inaccurate metrics for health.

Also, the pandemic completely changed the way I think about upgrading devices and how I use them, and I think once my watch is out of support I'll just put it away somewhere and probably never buy another AW - since now I know how I'll use it, I really can't justify paying a minimum of $250 for a volume knob.

And in fact, a lot of the time I'll forget I'm wearing the watch and just reach for the phone's volume controls, or I'm listening to quality music from my Android instead so the Watch is completely redundant for even that.

I religiously used a smartwatch when Band was a thing (even to reply to text messages since the keyboard was so intuitive despite that TINY display) which was a more focused product IMO and also had more novelty at the time, but never with an Apple Watch... I just look at it then fish out the phone to actually do anything with the info. The way it works and does things, the more I use it the more it just seems like a trinket for the sake of it tbh.
 
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Don't look at me. I have a Timex Indiglo. It tells time, which is all I want. It's also small and sits nicely on my wrist.
Dang, I was so busy posting to the Timex Indiglo forum that I almost missed your comment. While it's true that I neither own an Indiglo nor am I shopping for one, I had to let them know my 41mm Apple watch tells time, is small and sits nicely on my wrist too. 😂
 
Don't buy a S9 then lol, average after having a Ultra 1 for a year.
 
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Hey guys..
I bought AWU2 two months ago as my first apple watch, and ever since I am struggling to like them and make use of them. Now, I am not a sedantary type and a move quite a lot, but it's not like AW is making my workouts any better, I perform the same because I know what to do. Is there something I am missing? It feels more like nuisance to start workout every time I work out only to have it logged so that my number in Fitness app do not suck...
Next thing are the sensors.. heart beat sensor - sure. But blood oxygen sensor? I never needed it, and won't need unless I have some kind of emergency, same for ECG, or is there something I can do with this data?

For real I don't understand it, everything the watch does I can do on my phone, and the sensors and mostly never needer. Or is there something I am missing here? What are your use cases? Need some inspiration maybe. Thanks
You complain "everything the watch does I can do on my phone," but you cannot wear your phone on your wrist, glance at half a dozen complications with the phone, swim with it, dive with it, etc. If you are happy using the phone for those activities you can save money and not own the watch.

Personally I find the AW Ultra superb A) for activities sans phone and B) for apps and phone calls without having to dive to my pocket for the phone.

YMMV
 
I want to share my positive experience with the Apple Watch Ultra 2. It's not pointless to me at all. In fact, this is my second major Apple Watch purchase since I got my AW4.

I have a profound hearing loss and I rely on the Apple Watch as my alarm clock due to its unlimited alarm modes. The reason I chose it is because of its bigger screen, long-lasting battery life, and keyboard for text messaging, which I find very useful. Additionally, I use it for my workouts to help me stay in shape as best as I can.
I love the bigger screen and the flatness of the screen, I can actually hit they keys on the calculator! And, yes, the battery life is a nice extension. I can easily get over 48 hours and still be at 45% battery (if I put my screen in theater mode, which I do alot of the course of the day for one-to-two hours).
I also use it to stream music to my beats fit pros (seamless! connection) and read upcoming calendar events, notifications, weather, set timers (daily) and general movement and sleep tracking.

I’m very glad for you that this has made a positive impact on your life! It is always great to hear that technology most of us take for granted can be much more impactful than we credit based on our own circumstances.
 
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@JohnRckr

I completely understand your frustration.

I have tried out 3 different models of Apple Watch over the years and always ended up returning them, for exactly the reasons you set out.
What does an Apple Watch actually add to my workflow/life/leisure?

During Amazon's Black Friday sales I got a very good deal on the Ultra 2 and thought oh well. Let's try it out again.

Firstly it feels more like my vintage watches — much better than the black slabs of glass the other watches always seemed to be.
I like how it looks and feels. So that is at least in its favour.

But, apart from it just being a watch, I am left with the same dilemma as before.

In the gym I still strap a heart rate monitor to my chest because the Apple Watch heart rate is very laggy and pretty useless for HIT stuff. Whereas the Polar strap is bang on accurate and responsive.

Even paying with ApplePay is easier with my iPhone as I find it awkward to push up my sleeves (especially in witer) and then reach for the NFC reader that are often in awkward spots — or the readers on the London Tube are on the right hand side… The iPhone just works better.

The much vaunted double tap/pinch feature is pretty useless.

I will probably keep this one… I have until next Thursday to return it.

It just doesn't do much that my iPhone can't already deliver.

Anyway, I have no answer for you, apart from, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. 🙂

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Just to add, the battery life is amazing compared to the other Apple Watches.
I charge it every 3 days or so.

it's quite simple my friends.

You guys aren't endurance athletes.

Talk to any runner, cyclist, hiker, trail runner, etc. You get a garmin or if you are less serious then get an apple watch.

i wear both apple and garmin.

Now for my non athletic friends who hit the gym they don't use smart watches.
 
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Apples pricing is starting to hurt its bottom line. They are constantly pricing consumers out of owning apple products and sending them to competitors. Where it is much cheaper, easier in most case to replace and repair or upgrade.
And in most cases does EXACTLY what you need it to do.

The Apple Watch Ultra might cost $15-20 to actually manufacture. I understand research and development. Apple could charge $249 for the Apple Watch Ultra and still make plenty of profit.

Foxconn’s CEO outed the cost to make some of apples biggest products. And it costs a a 10th to produce over its MSRP.
Price is typically not a function of cost. Particularly in the “luxury” market.
 
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If you think it’s “truth” that a 10 miler is unproductive, I’d hate to train with you…

I have this app on my Apple Watch Ultra 2 that does the same thing. After a workout, I have to go out again and train some more.
 
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