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In the consumer's sense (like if I showed my mother something, asked her what it was, and have her say "oh, that's a computer") it would be a laptop, a desktop, and that's it.

That would be a PC, not a computer.

More likely, to your mom, a computer would be a big Univac or IBM mainframe with spinning tape drives or a front panel with tons of blinky lights. Look at the movies from when your mom was a kid, 1983 "Wargames" is a good example.
 
Microsoft sells software for any hardware, and Apple sells hardware with their own software. Two different business approach.

You are being a bit narrow minded.

No I'm not, Apple are narrow minded for not allowing the majority of computer users install OS X on their machines. Apple should set the OS free with some kind of hardware certification system.
 
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. There is no copy protection in Mac OS X. OS X just requires EFI instead of BIOS to boot, and not even in the United States you can make a legal claim that installing EFI on a PC and then booting into Mac OS X is in any way illegal.

How many times do you have to be corrected on this before you stop repeating it? In order to install OS X on a non-Mac you need to replace Apple's bootloader and various kexts in order to supply the encryption key embedded in the system management controller. Replacing these files result in the creation of a derivative work as affirmed by the judge in the Psystar case.

There is copy protection. It needs to be bypassed in order to use OS X on a non-Mac.

If you would actually read what I quoted the person sayed the computer manufacturer had to somehow alter the hardware to make it compatible, I was just saying he is wrong.

You need to read what he wrote. He never claimed the hardware needs to be altered.

Apple lets you do the exact same thing with Windows, it's called Boot Camp. It's also called hypocrisy.

Microsoft lets you install Windows on any PC you want, including Macs. Apple only lets you install OS X on Macs. That's not hypocrisy. That's just two different business strategies.

No I'm not, Apple are narrow minded for not allowing the majority of computer users install OS X on their machines. Apple should set the OS free with some kind of hardware certification system.

Why should they do that?
 
How many times do you have to be corrected on this before you stop repeating it? In order to install OS X on a non-Mac you need to replace Apple's bootloader and various kexts in order to supply the encryption key embedded in the system management controller. Replacing these files result in the creation of a derivative work as affirmed by the judge in the Psystar case.

Wrong, you're not replacing **** if you install from a retail DVD. Adding something like Chameleon (boot-loader) to the boot section of your drive isn't illegal, neither is adding a few kexts to your OS X installation. You seem pretty ignorant when it comes to hackintoshing.

Why should they do that?

To make money of course.
 
I should clarify. This is the direction most wanted the iPad to go in. Sure, the execution of this device is almost certainly far, far short of what Apple would ever release. But the iPad is a hobbled internet appliance. It's not a tablet computer.

How many iPads have been sold?
How many tablets have been sold?

I think the numbers speak for themselves. A "hobbled internet device" holds far more interest for far more people than a "tablet computer.". May not be what you want, but as an Apple shareholder I'm VERY happy that you aren't CEO of Apple.
 
It is funny. I'm going to make a call on my Motorola RAZR, aka my pocket computer. And maybe I'll type something up on that old 1988 electronic word processor/typewriter aka a computer. "Computer'" the colloquial term is essentially equivalent to PC (Mac, Wintel, Linux, etc.)

You can be literal when it suits you, that's fine.

In my and many other's opinions, the iPad is not a computer, it's more a Frankenstein combination of a small display, a remote control, and an iPod.

I'll take my MBP over it any day of the week.

And yet they are selling like hotcakes. So much for the value of your opinion.
 
And yet they are selling like hotcakes.

mmmm, hotcakes. ;)

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You're right, it's not a pretty looking toy like the iTunes vending machine but business people really don't care about looks.

Given the hardware specs, size, etc, I am sure this is going to be the next big hit in the business world. Just like all the other tablet devices before, running a desktop OS :rolleyes:
 
How many times do you have to be corrected on this before you stop repeating it? In order to install OS X on a non-Mac you need to replace Apple's bootloader and various kexts in order to supply the encryption key embedded in the system management controller. Replacing these files result in the creation of a derivative work as affirmed by the judge in the Psystar case.
You are wrong.

I installed Chameleon, which just emulates EFI. Then I installed an unmodified retail copy of OSX. No cracking of any encryption stuff. Not sure exactly where you pulled that weird idea from...
 
No I'm not, Apple are narrow minded for not allowing the majority of computer users install OS X on their machines. Apple should set the OS free with some kind of hardware certification system.

Apple should not do anything but what they want. They choose of selling hardware with their own software because in their opinion they will have a more stable/better performining machine.

In another case Microsoft decided that their OS should be able to run on any machine, in fact 'back in the days' Windows was less stable in some people opinion than Macs(I don't know nowadays, I haven't be using a PC with win7 yet); however, they thought was their best business approach, and probably this is one of the(many) reason of why Windows is the most used PC OS in the world.

The are a bazillion of OSes and open-source OS, and any company/manifacturer should be free of doing whatever business approach the reckon is better.

Apple don't owe anything to anyone, feel free to use another OS if Mac OS X doesn't suit you.
 
You're right, it's not a pretty looking toy like the iTunes vending machine but business people really don't care about looks.

I'm a "business person" as well. I care about looks. In the office I use the standard lousy Windows box running some godawful version of Office and our even more awful industry-specific software.

I own an iPhone 4. I plan on getting an iPad.

I wouldn't be caught dead with something as utterly nasty as the this Axon-whatever monstrosity.

Now what?

So much for "business people."
 
I'm a "business person" as well. I care about looks. In the office I use the standard lousy Windows box running some godawful version of Office and our even more awful industry-specific software.

I own an iPhone 4. I plan on getting an iPad.

I wouldn't be caught dead with something as utterly nasty as the this Axon-whatever monstrosity.

Now what?

So much for "business people."
Apparently you aren't business enough ;)
 
2 pounds. So, roughly the screen size of an iPad, but double its weight.

Nope.

Next!

iPad is 1.5lbs

Whilst I'm not saying I like it or want one, many may consider 0.5lbs extra to be a small price to pay to run a full OS.

If the iPad Mk2 was 0.5lb heavier but also ran OSX as an option there would be a stampede to buy it.
 
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