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back the f up.

fisherking said:
that's an absurb statement.

a very-small percentage of macusers live on this forum (most live in the real world). how many macusers don't use time machine? i mean, if you're reading about people with issues with TM, here, on this forum, that's a tiny percentage of the overall user base.

i don't use TM, but, for 99% of macusers, it's both essential, and simple. and works.
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Just discovered TM and I love it. Always used CCC before and I will keep doing so because it's a great app, but having additionally TM enabled is awesome if you just want to go back to replace a single file from one hour ago.
Also that makes it so much easier for people who refuse to think about backing up their data at all.
I could never convince my mom to back up her iMac with CCC while having cereals once in a week.
 
flygbuss said:
Just discovered TM and I love it. Always used CCC before and I will keep doing so because it's a great app, but having additionally TM enabled is awesome if you just want to go back to replace a single file from one hour ago.
Also that makes it so much easier for people who refuse to think about backing up their data at all.
I could never convince my mom to back up her iMac with CCC while having cereals once in a week.
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really; outside of the lunatics & nerds who live on forums like this (am including myself of course), most people just... email, surf. work. and time machine fits right into that simple way of being.
 
fisherking said:
sure, you may know "one thing or two"; equally possible: while i am backing up my files in 'the cloud', someone's hacked into your mac, and is copying your files. or... who knows?

if you're worried, get a second mac. never connect it to the internet. keep all your real files on it, and use the first mac online. then you'll be really safe...
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You forgot to suggest to him that super deal on a tin-foil hat, complete with cone shapped attenae nullifier of radio signals ;)
 
fisherking wrote:
"that's an absurb statement."

Very well.
You can choose to believe me, or you can choose not to.
Your choice (I can't change it).

I'm only reporting on what I've read previously, having been a daily visitor here since 2009. That is, numerous reports from users having trouble [merely] accessing Time Machine backups.
I'm not sure why they couldn't access them.
But they... couldn't. Or so claimed. Perhaps they were doing something wrong.

I've seen next-to-no complaints from folks who can't mount cloned backups.

If you don't accept what I've wrote, fine.
Pass me the tinfoil hat that YOU'RE wearin', please! ;)
 
Fishrrman said:
fisherking wrote:
"that's an absurb statement."

Very well.
You can choose to believe me, or you can choose not to.
Your choice (I can't change it).

I'm only reporting on what I've read previously, having been a daily visitor here since 2009. That is, numerous reports from users having trouble [merely] accessing Time Machine backups.
I'm not sure why they couldn't access them.
But they... couldn't. Or so claimed. Perhaps they were doing something wrong.

I've seen next-to-no complaints from folks who can't mount cloned backups.

If you don't accept what I've wrote, fine.
Pass me the tinfoil hat that YOU'RE wearin', please! ;)
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I don't doubt any of that but usually you see people reporting problems here, looking for help.
It's very unlikely that someone would post:
'Hey, I just recovered my TM backup successfully!'
 
Fishrrman said:
fisherking wrote:
"that's an absurb statement."

Very well.
You can choose to believe me, or you can choose not to.
Your choice (I can't change it).

I'm only reporting on what I've read previously, having been a daily visitor here since 2009. That is, numerous reports from users having trouble [merely] accessing Time Machine backups.
I'm not sure why they couldn't access them.
But they... couldn't. Or so claimed. Perhaps they were doing something wrong.

I've seen next-to-no complaints from folks who can't mount cloned backups.

If you don't accept what I've wrote, fine.
Pass me the tinfoil hat that YOU'RE wearin', please! ;)
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this has nothing to do with believing (or not believing) you, it has to do with numbers; the tiny tiny percentage of macusers who live on this forum, versus the rest of the world. and, since you've never even tried TM, you're basing all your ideas on what you imagine the app is like ("what did you think of the new avengers movie?" "i didn't like it, altho i didn't actually see it").

do what works for you, but don't pretend you're making 'valid' observations, based on 8 people's experiences on an one internet forum...
 
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flygbuss said:
Just discovered TM and I love it. Always used CCC before and I will keep doing so because it's a great app, but having additionally TM enabled is awesome if you just want to go back to replace a single file from one hour ago.
Also that makes it so much easier for people who refuse to think about backing up their data at all.
I could never convince my mom to back up her iMac with CCC while having cereals once in a week.
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Do you have to turn off TM before running CCC?
 
Clix Pix said:
I would think that unless one lives in a really nice, evenly-balanced climate year-round that extreme heat or extreme cold, not to mention extreme humidity, in terms of weather conditions could adversely affect an external HDD or SSD left in a vehicle all the time..... ?

Where I live, we have hot, humid summers and cold, sometimes extremely cold, winters, with snow being an occasional visitor some years and a disruptive, massive visitor other years. Unpredictable from year to year. I would never leave anything as valuable (to me) as my external drives in my car. I feel better having them secure and protected from weather in my safe deposit box at the bank.
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HDDs have quite a large non-operating temperature range so highly unlikely to fail when stored in a car. Same goes for the HDDs fitted by vehicle manufacturers as part of their design.

As a tertiary last-ditch backup location it is not a bad one.
 
The Hammer said:
Ok . I was just concerned that they might run simultaneously and interfere with each other.
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If you never have used any of them I would start with a CCC backup first and then activate TM.
It just doesn't make sense to copy your complete system to different destinations at the very same time. I think nothing bad would happen it just takes forever.
If you use TM anyways your system is already copied and the ammount of data transfered to your TM backup destination every hour is quite small, so there is no need to be worried, just start a CCC backup while TM is running as well, they will not interfere.
 
flygbuss said:
If you never have used any of them I would start with a CCC backup first and then activate TM.
It just doesn't make sense to copy your complete system to different destinations at the very same time. I think nothing bad would happen it just takes forever.
If you use TM anyways your system is already copied and the ammount of data transfered to your TM backup destination every hour is quite small, so there is no need to be worried, just start a CCC backup while TM is running as well, they will not interfere.
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I've been using TM since the beginning. I was thinking of going with SuperDuper as i haven't used cloning software with Macs before.
 
The Hammer said:
I've been using TM since the beginning. I was thinking of going with SuperDuper as i haven't used cloning software with Macs before.
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Never tried that. I'm using CCC since forever and it always worked for me.
I prefered the plainer interface of the older versions but I guess that's just a matter of taste.
I had a disc failure just once and that was 10 years ago with a spinner. Worked like a charme.
I use it often to move an OS to other macs since I hardly use migration (my MBP still runs an updated system starting in 2006 with Tiger and now Mojave.)
The good thing is you have a bootable clone you can immediately run your system from.
Maybe someone else can say something about SuperDuper..
 
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I "use" Time Machine, that is, it's making backups behind the scenes. I rarely look at my External to see if it's still doing it, but I did just now, and the latest was yesterday. I have TM Scheduler installed and set up so that it doesn't run every hour. I have had this Mac since 2014 (according to my Backup list) and have yet to have a need to try to restore something from a TM backup. I suspect that's true for most users - they never need it. It's a security blanket.
 
TM has not let me down yet and I have recovered files and used it replace a system image more than once.

I do prefer to have 2 instances of TM running though to share the load and enhance recovery chances. Running 2 x TM targets also gives me the option of starting a fresh every so often whilst keeping the other TM intact. This staggered approach hopefully provides a little more depth and avoids having a sequential backup running for too many years over too many OS versions.
 
Gregg2 said:
I have had this Mac since 2014 (according to my Backup list) and have yet to have a need to try to restore something from a TM backup
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Have you tried doing some random test restores from your backup? As others have experienced I've lost a number of Time Machine Backups for no reason that I can see. Hope you have another two backups.

Chances of corruption increase over time, and 4 years is a long time. It can also occur inadvertently. I was installing an ethernet cable and accidentally disconnected a thunderbolt cable. 5 drives were disconnected. They were all corrupted and Disk Utility couldn't rebuild them. I had to use diskwarrior to fix them.
 
HDFan said:
Have you tried doing some random test restores from your backup? As others have experienced I've lost a number of Time Machine Backups for no reason that I can see. Hope you have another two backups.
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Yes, I have three backups. No, I haven't tried to recover a test file from TM.
 
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