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Backing up takes 1 hour+??

JML42691 said:
Or you could try the much easier and less complicated process that I suggested above.
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Aloha JML42691,

It's not about being easier or less complicated, but about what works. I am employed in the IT sector, so I'm just a bit anal when it comes to troubleshooting, and my definition of complicated is probably not the same as yours :D

That being said, please go back and read my post to try to understand the logic behind the steps I detailed. Also, please re-read the last paragraph, in which a possible causal relationship is presented. I got that reasoning from a post detailing an alleged email exchange with no less than Steve Jobs himself. Whether Steve Jobs himself actually corresponded with the other poster is irrelevant - what is interesting is that I also came to somewhat the same conclusion.

A basic breakdown of my issues (ALL post- iPhone firmware 2.0.1 and iTunes 7.7.1 installation) were:

1. Deletion of all iPod content (movies, podcasts, and all audio)
2. Inability to run any and all 3rd party apps, to include Apple's own Remote app (they all crashed within 3 seconds after launch)
3. Extremely long backups (he last I clocked was 2 hours 56 minutes)
4. Dropping from 3G to EDGE in one particular spot on Oahu (between Honolulu and Mililani)

As I mentioned in my earlier post, my only option, other than replacing my iPhones 3G (I'm on my third one now), was to restore my iPhone as a new phone (the last two times I attempted to restore to a known good backup failed), but as this occurred on too frequent a frequency (5-7 times during the past week), I was understandably desperate to find any other available option.

After a lot of troubleshooting and internet research, I came across the steps detailed in my earlier post. If these are either too difficult or complicated, please feel free to do as you have already done. I just wanted to point out that by following those steps, to the letter, 100% of my issues have been resolved. ALL of them are now history, and I get much better battery life as well. While these steps may not work for you, they may work for others.

HawaiiMacAddict
 
DanielJvdBerg said:
Backing here taking 20 sec every time I backup, har har I laugh at you all.

I'm sorry for being so mean:D
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Why would you be laughing? If backing up takes 20 seconds for you, it obviously means you have nowhere near the amount of apps as i do...which in my opinion, defeats the whole purpose of the phone, if you're not even going to try to fully exploit its capabilities outside of making calls :rolleyes:

Honestly, yeah, long backups suck, but you could do things like, oh, carry on living the rest of your life...like letting it backup while you go out for lunch, catch a movie, spend time with your girlfriend, take a 1-hour nap...it really isn't that big of a deal. ;)
 
jcde7ago said:
Why would you be laughing? If backing up takes 20 seconds for you, it obviously means you have nowhere near the amount of apps as i do...which in my opinion, defeats the whole purpose of the phone, if you're not even going to try to fully exploit its capabilities outside of making calls :rolleyes:

Honestly, yeah, long backups suck, but you could do things like, oh, carry on living the rest of your life...like letting it backup while you go out for lunch, catch a movie, spend time with your girlfriend, take a 1-hour nap...it really isn't that big of a deal. ;)
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Aloha jcde7ago,

How many apps do you have? I currently have 47 apps on my iPhone and my last backup only took 1 minute or so, quite a reasonable time limit.

HawaiiMacAddict
 
jcde7ago said:
Why would you be laughing? If backing up takes 20 seconds for you, it obviously means you have nowhere near the amount of apps as i do...which in my opinion, defeats the whole purpose of the phone, if you're not even going to try to fully exploit its capabilities outside of making calls :rolleyes:

Honestly, yeah, long backups suck, but you could do things like, oh, carry on living the rest of your life...like letting it backup while you go out for lunch, catch a movie, spend time with your girlfriend, take a 1-hour nap...it really isn't that big of a deal. ;)
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Making judgements on non facts:D? I use everything in my iPhone. Receive tens of e-mails a day, and I have a lot of apps, I counted 22, which is quite enough in my opinion. Actually, the thing I least do with this thing is make a call;)
 
HawaiiMacAddict said:
Aloha jcde7ago,

How many apps do you have? I currently have 47 apps on my iPhone and my last backup only took 1 minute or so, quite a reasonable time limit.

HawaiiMacAddict
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64...and i believe the backups seem to go faster after you do one initially...i also have some really large programs like BeatMaker, Aurora Feint, etc...so i can understand how those could take some time :cool:
 
DanielJvdBerg said:
Making judgements on non facts:D? I use everything in my iPhone. Receive tens of e-mails a day, and I have a lot of apps, I counted 22, which is quite enough in my opinion. Actually, the thing I least do with this thing is make a call;)
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Well it wasn't entirely non-factual, it's been widely known that the more apps you have, the longer it takes to make a backup, which might have only slightly changed during the 2.0.1 update. As i noted on my previous post i just made, having large apps like BeatMaker and Aurora Feint increases the time...plus, there is a HUGE difference between 64 apps and 22 :D
 
Here are my initial screenshots

Aloha everyone,

As promised, here are the screenshots from my initial testing today, following implementation of my iPhone 3G solution. During this test, all of the following were left on (but sometimes not connected - sometimes WiFi dropped to 3G):

3G
WiFi
Location Services (GPS)

While my battery life may not reflect the same as yours, this is by far the best battery life I've experienced thus far.

HawaiiMacAddict
 

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The 2.0.2 seems to have fixed the problem for my iPod touch. Granted, I did a backup earlier today with 2.0.1 and that took the usual awful time, but the first 2.0.2 sync took 54 seconds to backup. Hopefully this is a very good thing.
 
Here's how my backup is going as I wait to install 2.0.2:

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EDIT: Updated it with 3rd time

I'm glad to know a 2.0.2 user says his first back-up after 2.0.2 was short, despite the long backup before the update. I was worried I'd do this 2+ hour backup, then after updating to 2.0.2 it would start from scratch with another 2 hours.
 
cWeems said:
yea right, i should let my phone sit useless for 2 hours jus to back up my phone numbers? siiiiike
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i have 304 contacts on my iphone. i would much rather let it sit for two hours than retype them, at least i can do something productive while its backing up and it would take me over two hours to re enter all that info.
 
These long back up times just are not right. I am lucky that it only takes a few minutes. But i'm reading for some people it takes up to 3 hours???!! I don't think the apps are big enough for such long back up. Backing up a MacPro MAY take that long but teenie, tiny iPhone Apps???

Has anyone brought their phone to the Genius Bar and asked them why this happens? I wouldn't tolerate it if it was happening to me.
 
The number of Apps doesnt matter. If you regularly plug it into your USB port.

Its how much you change your iPhone between plugging it in again.
You could have 200 apps. Add +1 more file and it will be really quick.

But Add 60 apps and then plug it in, your going to be there for hours.
 
mappyman said:
The number of Apps doesnt matter. If you regularly plug it into your USB port.

Its how much you change your iPhone between plugging it in again.
You could have 200 apps. Add +1 more file and it will be really quick.

But Add 60 apps and then plug it in, your going to be there for hours.
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What you say is true enough, as far as if you change just one file, backup would be faster than if you had added 60 apps since last backup.

Still, backing up 60 apps shouldn't take several hours -- I mean, I have like several gigs of music and videos that I sync to my Touch, and copying them all from the computer to Touch takes less than an hour -- probably more like thirty minutes. I have less than a gig of app data, yet a complete backup of those takes over an hour. Is my hard drive really nearly 10 times slower than the flash drive on the Touch?
 
Night Spring said:
What you say is true enough, as far as if you change just one file, backup would be faster than if you had added 60 apps since last backup.

Still, backing up 60 apps shouldn't take several hours -- I mean, I have like several gigs of music and videos that I sync to my Touch, and copying them all from the computer to Touch takes less than an hour -- probably more like thirty minutes. I have less than a gig of app data, yet a complete backup of those takes over an hour. Is my hard drive really nearly 10 times slower than the flash drive on the Touch?
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I dont know what Apple is doing but I think they encrypt each app back onto the hard drive.

Maybe its the encryption thats taking a long time.
 
After my 3 hour backup before updating to 2.0.2 I went to update, it had to do one more backup, which was fast. But now, only a couple days later, no new apps installed, maybe updates, it was again beginning to take way too long. If I did happen to forget about one I installed, it was probably just one, no way something like 60 apps. This seems to happen way too often.
 
mappyman said:
The number of Apps doesnt matter. If you regularly plug it into your USB port.

Its how much you change your iPhone between plugging it in again.
You could have 200 apps. Add +1 more file and it will be really quick.

But Add 60 apps and then plug it in, your going to be there for hours.
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this isn't true, because this....

TimothyB said:
After my 3 hour backup before updating to 2.0.2 I went to update, it had to do one more backup, which was fast. But now, only a couple days later, no new apps installed, maybe updates, it was again beginning to take way too long. If I did happen to forget about one I installed, it was probably just one, no way something like 60 apps. This seems to happen way too often.
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...happened to me. how long it takes to backup has nothing to do with the amt of apps you have on your iphone. what i'm trying to figure out is why have the 2 minute backups when you aren't even able to restore from them (i've tried).
 
Can I point folks toward the previous thread which had a solution for many - basically resetting the "do you want to send crash information to Apple" box many ticked at the start without thinking about it.

Clears away those long long unnecessary backups.
Don't have the link to hand, but it's around i the iPhone forum.
 
t0mat0 said:
Can I point folks toward the previous thread which had a solution for many - basically resetting the "do you want to send crash information to Apple" box many ticked at the start without thinking about it.

Clears away those long long unnecessary backups.
Don't have the link to hand, but it's around i the iPhone forum.
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I removed all the logs stored on my computer, but don't have a way to access any ones store on the iPhone, at least from my PC. After removing 112 crash logs and other stuff from the Apple folders on my PC, it still took 3 hours. But those might not have anything to do with the current backup. I'll have to search to see if there is a way to undo that option where I allowed iTunes to send Apple the reports.
 
After reading about all of these 1.5 to 2 hour backups,
I'm glad my phone is still running 2.0.0. :)

cWeems said:
yea right, i should let my phone sit useless for 2 hours jus to back up my phone numbers? siiiiike
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In the meantime, Steve Jobs will be uploading his own personal copy of your phone numbers and info. :confused:

quote of the day:
"After updating, I'm still having 3G connectivity issues on my iPod Touch." Haha! Lol.
 
why are people talking about phone numbers???? your phone numbers should either be in outlook or address book.app - if you crash, just effin resync the phone

i don't think people understand what backup is even for - you backup for game saves, sms history, app settings, phone settings, crash reports

you should not be backing up the phone for photos, email, calendar, contacts, even the actual apps are synced separately from the backup - all of that stuff will reappear the first time you sync

backup != syncing
 
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