I got my 17" MacBook Pro a couple weeks ago to use as a desktop replacement. However, I will, at times, need to take it places. I plan on getting a neoprene sleeve for it as well at some point. My original thought was to get a messenger bag, as I had been thinking about switching from backpacks to messenger bags. My friend convinced me otherwise, since backpacks do have better balance on the shoulders, and thus less back strain. I am currently looking at some North Face backpacks (Hot Shot or Big Shot), and I'd like some insight from any current 17" owners with any of these backpacks. I already have a North Face Wavelength, which fit my old 15" fine, but is barely large enough to fit the 17" even without a sleeve. In the pack, I also plan on carrying some notebooks, binders, and if I'm traveling, I might have my MacBook Air (in a Booq Viper 11) in there as well. Does the 17" MBP fit inside these bags with a neoprene sleeve on? Can anyone make me a recommendation on one of those bags (a different pack recommendation is ok too)? Thanks in advance!