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Ban on Galaxy Nexus U.S. Sales Upheld, Software Patch to Circumvent Forthcoming

notabadname said:
Here comes another 1,000 post war of words as people without ALL the facts say how improper this was of the court.
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I am all for banning products that directly infringe on key Hardware/interface designs, because those trick consumers into buying something they may not want to, and it hurts Apple's sales and brand strength.

However, the facts are all there for us to see. One of the patents has to do specifically with integrated system wide search, not SIRI, as it was mentioned. Since when is a system wide search a feature that is only unique to iOS devices? So, Galaxy Nexus users should not be able to easily search for local files/apps on their device? C'mon, that serves zero benefit to anyone, including Apple.
 
MACdaddy859 said:
Man im with you 100%, I am too a proud owner of a few Apple products but I am NOT supportive of Apple suing Samsung over everything. Its not good at all for consumers. Apple wants a **** monopoly.....f that. I think Jelly Bean is better anyways
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People keep throwing the word "monopoly" around, disregarding its meaning. It's just consumers being greedy. If you don't like companies, don't buy from them.
 
It's obvious that Apple is of the mind that they've invented everything. They know it all & want it all. Well on their way towards world domination, it just can't happen soon enough for them. It must be good to be Apple :)
 
gorskiegangsta said:
I am all for banning products that directly infringe on key Hardware/interface designs, because those trick consumers into buying something they may not want to, and it hurts Apple's sales and brand strength.

However, the facts are all there for us to see. One of the patents has to do specifically with integrated system wide search, not SIRI, as it was mentioned. Since when is a system wide search a feature that is only unique to iOS devices? So, Galaxy Nexus users should not be able to easily search for local files/apps on their device? C'mon, that serves zero benefit to anyone, including Apple.
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I agree with you. Misleading marketing even hurts consumers. I haven't looked closely at the patents, but if Samsung is running an OS on their phones with copies of iOS technologies, their phones should be blocked unless this is fixed. And it is being fixed.
 
HatterZero said:
So when google sues them back for something else will you sell all the Google stuff and buy Apple stuff? seems like a huge waste of money. Apple sues google, google sues apple. The cycle goes on forever.
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Google will NEVER sue Apple because they receive significant (more than search) revenue from Apple.
 
blackhand1001 said:
I don't care when it was filed being able to patent something like a universal search is ridiculous. Googles implementation isn't even close to the same as apples. Even worse is the fact that this judge seriously believes that people are buying this phone instead of the iphone because of the search box. Samsung argued that it was not a major factor in customers decisions and therefore an injunction is completely unecessary and the so called infringement isn't negatively effecting apple and I agree. This whole ordeal is ridiculous and I seriously have lost a ton of respect for both apple and this Judge Koh lady.
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Actually that unified search patent that was filed in 2000 and issued in Dec 2011 is what makes the Spotlight search function on OX sooo much better than anything in the PC world. And of course it applies to mobile phones too, in the form of Siri.

It is these little things that make the mac experience so much better than the PC one...but gain little attention when 'spec's are listed that include only screen sizes, number of LED's and whatnot.

The summer release of the next MAC OS will unify the safari browser search box and address box into one, just like Chrome. Google may be shixxing in their pants because Apple actually has a patent on it or at least a better version of it that just came out in 2011...which may explain why Google want that patent invalidated.

But Apple was thinking about this in 2000, way before Google was thinking about anything.

YAY for Apple. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...50&s1=8086604.PN.&OS=PN/8086604&RS=PN/8086604
 
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gorskiegangsta said:
However, the facts are all there for us to see. One of the patents has to do specifically with integrated system wide search, not SIRI, as it was mentioned. Since when is a system wide search a feature that is only unique to iOS devices? So, Galaxy Nexus users should not be able to easily search for local files/apps on their device? C'mon, that serves zero benefit to anyone, including Apple.
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The cynical, simpler side of me thinks this has only now become an issue since it directly effects Google Now.
 
lol if they really cared about their precious patents wouldn't they sue google, hmm you know the makers of that "stolen" os?
 
Over The Hill said:
I’m just baffled you know how everything really happened. Must be a gift of some sort.
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Care to explain?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone_wars
Although Nokia started it all, I can find just a single instance where an Android manufacturer attacked first, and that was Motorola, well before Google indicated any intentions of acquiring it. Google allowed HTC to use its patents to defend Android, and is buying Motorola Mobility mostly to strengthen its patent portfolio.

Google has no interest in eliminating iOS. Why has Google brought most of their products (including, most recently, Chrome) to it?

Steve Jobs' heated "thermonuclear war" statement really shows that this is just a quest for revenge. Google worked with Apple on iOS to integrate Maps and search, then Google decided to compete, and this angered Mr. Jobs.

Make no mistake: Apple has its own bottom line and its personal vendetta at heart, not the good of the consumer. I can't believe people are actually defending their attempts to wipe out competition.
 
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MacCurry said:
I'm done with iOS hardware. I will continue to use and purchase OS X, but will now proceed to sell all 3 iPads my family owns and this evening I am taking away all of the 6-8 iPods from my wife and children. In return, I will be buying them the Nexus 7 tablets and Galaxy Nexus phones imported in to the US for a marginally higher price.
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I'm sure you will be a big hit with the family. Are you nuts?

Master of the castle huh? Forget about patent law...get a divorce attorney....)
 
viewfly said:
Actually that unified search patent that was filed in 2000 and issued in Dec 2011 is what makes the Spotlight search function on OX sooo much better than anything in the PC world. And of course it applies to mobile phones too, in the form of Siri.

It is these little things that make the mac experience so much better than the PC one...but gain little attention when 'spec's are listed that include only screen sizes, number of LED's and whatnot.

The summer release of the next MAC OS will unify the safari browser search box and address box into one, just like Chrome. Google may be shixxing in their pants because Apple actually has a patent on it or at least a better version of it that just came out in 2011...which may explain why Google want that patent invalidated.

But Apple was thinking about this in 2000, way before Google was thinking about anything.

YAY for Apple.
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Oh you mean like google desktop which was released in 2004 before spotlight?

I wonder if copernic desktop search released before 2000 is prior art for the patent in question.
 
viewfly said:
I'm sure you will be a big hit with the family. Are you nuts?

Master of the castle huh? Forget about patent law...get a divorce attorney....)
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Don't forget to convert all of the AAC files to MP3 first!
 
dwd3885 said:
Android has had unified search in android long before it was in iOS.
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Google want you to use their unified search since that's how they make money. If Bing or Yahoo steals Google's search technology you bet your last cent Google will be raising hell in court.
 
btcutter said:
Google want you to use their unified search since that's how they make money. If Bing or Yahoo steals Google's search technology you bet your last cent Google will be raising **** in court.
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Bing already did (not sure if they still do). Google tried making some random search turn up something completely irrelevant, and sure enough, searching that same thing on Bing produced the same result.

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tninety said:
Apple didn't invent AAC.
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I know, but that's not what I'm talking about. The Nexus cannot play AAC, especially if it has an iTunes Store DRM on it.
 
btcutter said:
Google want you to use their unified search since that's how they make money. If Bing or Yahoo steals Google's search technology you bet your last cent Google will be raising hell in court.
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Google's specific implementation of PageRank would be a trade secret. If stolen and Google initiates litigation, it wouldn't fall under patent law. If someone did a clean-room copy of PageRank, any litigation would fall under patent law - but good luck actually pulling that off :rolleyes:

Bing is stealing Google's search results, and Google has expressed discontent at it, but they have also said that they won't take action.
 
MACdaddy859 said:
Man im with you 100%, I am too a proud owner of a few Apple products but I am NOT supportive of Apple suing Samsung over everything. Its not good at all for consumers. Apple wants a **** monopoly.....f that. I think Jelly Bean is better anyways
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""Although some consumers may be disappointed that they cannot purchase the Galaxy Nexus, the Galaxy Nexus, as Samsung itself has repeatedly insisted, is not Samsung's only smartphone product on the market," Koh wrote in the ruling."

You must purchase all 3 properties of the same color for a monopoly.

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tninety said:
Bing is stealing Google's search results, and Google has expressed discontent at it, but they have also said that they won't take action.
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Bing is fueled purely by people who use IE and don't know how to change the settings or get a different browser. And every MS thing you install gives you the @#$%ing Bing Bar by default (unless you say no). I almost installed it by accident a bunch of times. When Bing came out, MS set it to the homepage for every IE user. It's antitrust.
 
faroZ06 said:
I know, but that's not what I'm talking about. The Nexus cannot play AAC, especially if it has an iTunes Store DRM on it.
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I believe Android natively supports AAC (and has for a while, I think). I've had no trouble playing iTunes store content on it. Even if it didn't, you could download an app that did and replace the default music player with that. DRM'd files, though, it won't play. http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html Google Play Music will also accept AAC files, but automatically transcodes any content you upload into 320kbps MP3 anyway.

EDIT: Since 3.1 it seems.
 
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