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Keep changing those goal posts, maybe you'll stumble into being right on something.

? You said I'm wrong on every point and mentioned gaming is a factor which makes a difference and you can see it doesn't. Not sure why you sound so angry trying to prove your point. Lol
 
? You said I'm wrong on every point and mentioned gaming is a factor which makes a difference and you can see it doesn't. Not sure why you sound so angry trying to prove your point. Lol

Can't tell if you're trolling or really that clueless.

Just in case you aren't trolling, the youtube video you showed is pointless. Using two different systems, with different specs isn't a reasonable comparison of Iris vs. Iris Pro. if you're serious about understanding why you're so wrong, check out benchmarks for Iris vs. Pro (Anandtech is a good place to start). Common benchmarks show that Iris Pro is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Iris,

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2692&cmp[]=2562

It's not close.

To sum things up:

1. No, the base model 15 doesn't have a dGPU.
2. No, the base 15 doesn't have any issues with windows and battery life.
3. Yes, the 15 quad core is significantly more powerful than the dual core in the 13, and it's readily noticeable.
4. Yes, the Iris pro graphics in the 15 are significantly better than the Iris in the 13.

You're wrong on just about every piece of advice you have given out. Please stop.
 
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I have the 15 MBP for work & just bought the high end 13 for myself.
The size is big for me. I loved the 13 MBA but I also want to use FCP at times.

If size isn't the issue then 15 inch. Greater specks hands down.
 
Can't tell if you're trolling or really that clueless.

Just in case you aren't trolling, the youtube video you showed is pointless. Using two different systems, with different specs isn't a reasonable comparison of Iris vs. Iris Pro. if you're serious about understanding why you're so wrong, check out benchmarks for Iris vs. Pro (Anandtech is a good place to start). Common benchmarks show that Iris Pro is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Iris,

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2692&cmp[]=2562

It's not close.

To sum things up:

1. No, the base model 15 doesn't have a dGPU.
2. No, the base 15 doesn't have any issues with windows and battery life.
3. Yes, the 15 quad core is significantly more powerful than the dual core in the 13, and it's readily noticeable.
4. Yes, the Iris pro graphics in the 15 are significantly better than the Iris in the 13.

You're wrong on just about every piece of advice you have given out. Please stop.

Why do you keep insisting that you are right and I'm wrong? LOL
Nobody says the 13 inch is more powerful. You mentioned gaming and for gaming Iris pro has no advantage to regular Iris. Why is this so hard to understand? All that matters for gameplay is FPS and every testbench shows very close FPS rates. Anyways, the OP never asked for gaming and you keep raging over why Iris pro is SO MUCH BETTER THAN IRIS O MAY GAWD. Keep raging :mad:

Look at this though:

I've heard of some heat issues with the rMBP 15, especially when used for long periods of time. I'm wondering what you guys think of extended use of the rMBP as a desktop basically vs. just going the mini route. Can the rMBP handle running all day, every day?

The Mini I ordered was the refurb quad core i7, I was going to get a new SSD and ram for it, but since the extra cash isn't really a huge issue was considering getting the MBP instead.

Also, would the dedicated graphics card be much of an advantage to someone who just runs movies and multiple programs in different windows? I'd want at least a 512 SSD, so it seems like the high end option is the better value.


This is YOUR post just last week asking for advice on a dedicated GPU and not having a clue and now talking as if you know something LOL. Just a friendly advice to you, do NOT buy the base retina MacBook pro for gaming and sorry in advance for crushing your dreams.

What the world has come to. A bunch of trolls.

Peace!
 
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Dear god. You see, I actually did the research instead of just talking out of my ass.
 
Look at this though:

I've heard of some heat issues with the rMBP 15, especially when used for long periods of time. I'm wondering what you guys think of extended use of the rMBP as a desktop basically vs. just going the mini route. Can the rMBP handle running all day, every day?

I think it can... Mine has been running non-stop for 2 weeks straight ripping and encoding my blue ray library. I decided to go digital and sell the 200+ movies I have.

I rip 6-8 movies in the evening with MakeMKV and then set them up to encode with Handbrake. It's a good 2 hours a movie so the machine runs for 12-16 hours straight while I'm at work or asleep.

The fan comes on when it's encoding... been running great and I'm about 75% done.
 
Parallels is for people using Windows casually. If you are doing serious things on Windows, a virtual machine is not the answer

That makes no sense. What ever you can do running windows natively you can do in a VM, albeit a bit slower in some cases. Where I work, most of our servers are running as VMs, clearly virtualization is not for casual usage.

IT has its place, and for some folks its important, and makes more sense then bootcamp.
 
That makes no sense. What ever you can do running windows natively you can do in a VM, albeit a bit slower in some cases. Where I work, most of our servers are running as VMs, clearly virtualization is not for casual usage.

IT has its place, and for some folks its important, and makes more sense then bootcamp.

His advice for your business will be to buy a bunch of dual core systems since VMs are for casual use only haha.
 
That makes no sense. What ever you can do running windows natively you can do in a VM, albeit a bit slower in some cases. Where I work, most of our servers are running as VMs, clearly virtualization is not for casual usage.

IT has its place, and for some folks its important, and makes more sense then bootcamp.

Seconded.

I'm a dev at VMware Inc and we also run our servers off VMs, using vSphere with PCI pass-through enabled.

Whoever says VM is for casual usage only needs to get his/her head examined.
 
That makes no sense. What ever you can do running windows natively you can do in a VM, albeit a bit slower in some cases. Where I work, most of our servers are running as VMs, clearly virtualization is not for casual usage.

IT has its place, and for some folks its important, and makes more sense then bootcamp.

Maybe he's referring to playing latest DirectX 3D game on virtualization. I don't think you can run a DX11.2 game on a virtual sandbox. I agree virtualization isn't only for casual usage, and many businesses rely on it as well. For professional use, VMs and the word "virtual" are used very often. Rather than regular VMware/parallels OS emulator, many use operating-system-level virtualization. There's even VLAN, VPN etc. which all have "virtual" insignia.
 
I know this is not related to mac, but the lenovo y series which is a portable laptop has the 860m graphics with 4gb and has 16 gb of ram and has 512 gb of SSD all for 1299. I have the 750M with the late 13 15", why didn't apple upgrade their graphics? I don't mean to hate. I would never switch to a windows, just asking
 
I know this is not related to mac, but the lenovo y series which is a portable laptop has the 860m graphics with 4gb and has 16 gb of ram and has 512 gb of SSD all for 1299. I have the 750M with the late 13 15", why didn't apple upgrade their graphics? I don't mean to hate. I would never switch to a windows, just asking

Apple only upgrades the GPU when the CPU micro architecture is changed as well.

Late-2013 to mid-2014 only made a small bump in Haswell, so since the CPU micro architecture is unchanged, Apple won't change the GPU micro architecture from Kepler to Maxwell.

When Intel finally gets their act together and ship Broadwell-HQ, then the GPU architecture may:
1. Be upgraded from Kepler to Maxwell (GM10x or GM20x)
2. No dGPU at all across all models.
 
Both machines are great. My neighbor has 15" 2.2 and I have maxed out 13". They both run massive Logic files with lots of plugs and neither machine breaks a sweat.

Congrats and enjoy.


This ^^^ I am an IT pro and have no issue at all with multiple VMs on my "pitiful, half the power" rMBP 13. I like the portability a lot better. On the other hand, one of my oil company developer buddies, loves his 15 rMBP. It's whatever you like and fits within your budget.
I played with the 15 multiple times at the Apple store and it just came down to being too big.
 
I know this is not related to mac, but the lenovo y series which is a portable laptop has the 860m graphics with 4gb and has 16 gb of ram and has 512 gb of SSD all for 1299. I have the 750M with the late 13 15", why didn't apple upgrade their graphics? I don't mean to hate. I would never switch to a windows, just asking

dGPUs are generally for gaming. Most video editing and rendering are CPU bound anyways so that's where the better i7 of the rmbp comes compared to el-cheapo and slower i7 of purecrap (PC). If video editing has GPU acceleration on it, Intel Quicksync will render that video faster than many desktop class gaming GPU.
 
dGPUs are generally for gaming. Most video editing and rendering are CPU bound anyways so that's where the better i7 of the rmbp comes compared to el-cheapo and slower i7 of purecrap (PC). If video editing has GPU acceleration on it, Intel Quicksync will render that video faster than many desktop class gaming GPU.

Not anymore. Final Cut Pro X uses the GPUs heavily.

And also, there's quite some software out there which use either CUDA or OpenCL. The days of GPGPU are here already.
 
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