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Baseball game Brouhaha
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Lawsuit
I just heard on the radio (KGO) that the woman is going to file a personal injury lawsuit. I am generally opposed to excessive suits but this one is justified. The best way to inflict meaningful pain on these overpaid idiots is to grab a huge chunk of their change.
While I don't believe the teams or ballparks are directly responible, she should seeks damages from them as well, as a way to force teams into some sort of training for their players.
I just heard on the radio (KGO) that the woman is going to file a personal injury lawsuit. I am generally opposed to excessive suits but this one is justified. The best way to inflict meaningful pain on these overpaid idiots is to grab a huge chunk of their change.
While I don't believe the teams or ballparks are directly responible, she should seeks damages from them as well, as a way to force teams into some sort of training for their players.
me_94501 said:
LOL, Dude, I feel you- I'm a Philly fan... Once you get that rep the lazy media just beat it to death because it's an easy story that will get the writers to happy hour sooner... I mean the most famous story about Philly was them booing Santa- in 1968- & that whole thing was a spoof about the GM at the time calling the team dogs... So this scrawny little Santa was carted around in a wagon by some scruffy looking mutt... Very funny, not vicious at all... The guy was gonna do it every year- till the team nixed it because of innacurate national perception...
Just get used to it & don't let it get you down...
me_94501 said:
eactly. A's fans are mostly great, friendly people. The giants get too many yuppies who don't relaly care about baseball at their park, but that's because pacbell (sbc, whatever) park is a destination here, not just a place to go see ball games, so there's a lot of corporatations who buy tickets for it and what not. There are great giants fans too (giants still suck though, haha). Any team that got people to go see a ball game out in candlestick has good fans.
The best example of A's fans was the kids who used to bring drums the last few years, We had chants for every player on the team, and even got loud enough in playoffs to annoy steinbrenner one year.. he asked that the drummers be removed. That is a great, into it set of a fans.
The problem fans tend to be some dumb teenagers or the overly drunk, and that happens everywhere.
The best baseball fans are probably in St Louis and cubs fans. They love their ball games there. There are plenty of fair weather east coast fans too. Camden yards doesn't sell out like it used to for instance.
Koodauw said:
He should be banned for life IMO.
The issue is that salaries are going to astronomical levels, and the players in the fans eyes don't deliver. At the O's park, before the game the players go to the sidelines to autograph things for the kids. Some of the highest paid names stay away. And that is a shame. And MLB wonders why they are having problems.
MacNut said:
So getting heckled a little makes it OK to throw chairs ?... That's interesting... Visiting players should expect to get heckled, suck it up, & ignore them... There's no excuse for any other action against someone that is verbally heckling a ballplayer... Visiting ballplayers should SHUT UP & cash those L A R G E paychecks...
I agree that players should stay away and not get involved, but the fans should keep to themselves and this was obviously getting worse as the game went on so someone should of stepped in before it got worse. This fan should of been kicked out of the stadium for some of his remarks, i believe he said to the players, i slept with your mom last night, can you honestly tell me that that is called for by a fan and that others around him should have to listen to that. Fans should have as much discretion as the players do.
jemeinc said:
When I mentioned the O's, I was referring to home fans heckling the hometown team!
So who is at fault
This is an article from ESPN.com
OAKLAND, Calif. -- The woman whose nose was broken when Texas reliever Frank Francisco threw a chair into the stands said Wednesday she will not decide whether to sue the Rangers until after prosecutors and baseball officials complete their investigation.
Jennifer Bueno, 41, with a large white bandage covering her nose and purple rings under her eyes, and her husband, Craig, appeared at a news conference with their attorney, who said they plan to seek compensation for her injuries.
"We definitely feel the Texas Rangers are responsible for this and that they should pay for this," personal injury lawyer Gary Gwilliam said.
Prosecutors said they need more time to investigate before formally charging Francisco, who was booked by police for felony aggravated assault. An arraignment scheduled for Wednesday afternoon was postponed.
During Texas' 7-6, 10-inning loss to Oakland on Monday, Francisco threw a chair into the right-field box seats and hit two spectators in the head.
Craig Bueno acknowledged that, before the fracas, he was part of some "verbal bantering" with the Rangers.
"It's part of going to the baseball game," Jennifer Bueno said. "I don't think he did anything wrong."
She said "it would be a little while" before she attends A's games again.
"It's an American tradition," the 42-year-old fire battalion chief said of his heckling, adding that he said he and his wife bought season tickets near the visitors' bullpen just "so we can get on them on a little bit."
The Athletics and the Rangers disagreed over who was to blame for the altercation. David Rinetti, A's vice president of stadium operations, said Tuesday a review showed the fans' behavior wasn't over the line according to baseball's rules of conduct that are posted at every ballpark entrance.
He said the incident didn't turn violent until the Rangers players left the bullpen to approach the seats.
Texas manager Buck Showalter said his team has had problems in the past at the Oakland Coliseum, and asked for more security in the area where the altercation took place. Rinetti said neither he nor his security staff had been approached with such a request.
This is an article from ESPN.com
OAKLAND, Calif. -- The woman whose nose was broken when Texas reliever Frank Francisco threw a chair into the stands said Wednesday she will not decide whether to sue the Rangers until after prosecutors and baseball officials complete their investigation.
Jennifer Bueno, 41, with a large white bandage covering her nose and purple rings under her eyes, and her husband, Craig, appeared at a news conference with their attorney, who said they plan to seek compensation for her injuries.
"We definitely feel the Texas Rangers are responsible for this and that they should pay for this," personal injury lawyer Gary Gwilliam said.
Prosecutors said they need more time to investigate before formally charging Francisco, who was booked by police for felony aggravated assault. An arraignment scheduled for Wednesday afternoon was postponed.
During Texas' 7-6, 10-inning loss to Oakland on Monday, Francisco threw a chair into the right-field box seats and hit two spectators in the head.
Craig Bueno acknowledged that, before the fracas, he was part of some "verbal bantering" with the Rangers.
"It's part of going to the baseball game," Jennifer Bueno said. "I don't think he did anything wrong."
She said "it would be a little while" before she attends A's games again.
"It's an American tradition," the 42-year-old fire battalion chief said of his heckling, adding that he said he and his wife bought season tickets near the visitors' bullpen just "so we can get on them on a little bit."
The Athletics and the Rangers disagreed over who was to blame for the altercation. David Rinetti, A's vice president of stadium operations, said Tuesday a review showed the fans' behavior wasn't over the line according to baseball's rules of conduct that are posted at every ballpark entrance.
He said the incident didn't turn violent until the Rangers players left the bullpen to approach the seats.
Texas manager Buck Showalter said his team has had problems in the past at the Oakland Coliseum, and asked for more security in the area where the altercation took place. Rinetti said neither he nor his security staff had been approached with such a request.
His idiotic actions blew up in his face and now he wants money. Sissy boy.
Regardless of whether it was right or wrong to throw the chair, I have no sympathy for idiots who bite off more than they can chew, and then go crying to their lawyers when they get a booboo.
"It's an American tradition," the 42-year-old fire battalion chief said of his heckling, adding that he said he and his wife bought season tickets near the visitors' bullpen just "so we can get on them on a little bit."
Do all fans think this way, I love baseball as much as the next guy, and being a Yankee fan i know a little about tradition, I don't think that really counts.
Do all fans think this way, I love baseball as much as the next guy, and being a Yankee fan i know a little about tradition, I don't think that really counts.
I saw the replay of the chair throwing incident by Frank Francisco on our local news. It was a very unprofessional act. The fans have a right to heckle.
I feel sorry for Jennifer Bueno, she should be compensated for her injuries.
It seems that all the sports have become violent, it gives the wrong impression to children.
I feel sorry for Jennifer Bueno, she should be compensated for her injuries.
It seems that all the sports have become violent, it gives the wrong impression to children.
strider42 said:
Camden Yards doesn't sell out like it used to because the O's haven't fielded a competitive team in at least 6 years. Man, old Memorial Stadium was a great ballpark, because only hardcore O's fans went there. Once the Yards opened, Corporate America took over and everyone sits on their hands. The only positive thing about the O's recent poor performance is that the yuppies are finally getting restless. Maybe real baseball fans can start scarfing up season tix again, and it'll be a fun place to watch baseball finally. Oh, and the yuppies like to sell their tickets, too. Camden Yards is home away from home for Bosox and Yankee fans heading down 95. Sometimes you almost forget who the home team is...
powermac666 said:
It is not just poor performance. Many of us from VA and DC are staying away this year, as long as the Expos have a chance coming our way. So his loss maybe a win-win for the rest of us. Baltimore fans get a better crack at season tickets, and the DC area gets a team that we can see mid week without having leave 3 to 4 hors before the game.
powermac666 said:
Pretty much the definition of fair weather fans isn't it, stayting away when the team isn't doing well. The only losing teams who sell out year after yearare the cubs and cardinals (neither of which are bad anymore, which is good news to their fans).
The experience you've had at camden yards is exactly what happened when the giants new park opened. its gonna take years for corporate america to leave the ball park alone. Oh well, I'm an A's fan anyway. Now if the A's finally get a new stadium and that happens, I'm gonna be pissed.
Speaking of not knowing who the home team is sometimes, we have the same problem here in Oakland. There are so many Redsox and Yankees fans transplanted to the bay area, they can be equal in number to the home town fans. its annoying (but does add some energy to the crowd)
A quick aside, the coolest thing about Camden yards I though (dunno if its still there) was the designated area for scalping tickets. It was one of the funniest things I've ever experience, walking between two ropes and having guys on both sides yelling at me trying to get me to buy their tickets. The best part was we asked a police officer where the box office was, and he simply directed us to the scalping area.
Considering they've boosted security at some of the parks, it is still amazing that the players don't take advantage of them more often to have aggressive fans kicked out -- instead of tossing stuff back at 'em with the intent to injure someone.MacNut said:
It would be nice if the players actually hit the fan they are throwing things at, but them multi-million dollar players always seem to miss and injure innocents sitting in the stands.
What is wrong with these players when they can't hit a target as large as the average American beer guzzling fan.
Good, I'm glad this was over fairly quickly and didn't draw out for a long time. He deserves to be fined.MacNut said:
MacNut said:
It's not even close to enough... Since the season is basically over in 2 weeks this amounts to nothing more than a slap on the wrist... If MLB had any guts at all they would carry this into next season...