[Based on rumors] Gaming performance Haswell rMBP

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by HipsterGG, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. HipsterGG macrumors member

    HipsterGG

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    #1
    Since I didn't have any success in the main 'waiting for haswell rMBP' thread I'll try my best in my own thread.

    All,

    I've been following the rMBP threads for quite a while now and I was wondering what your thoughts were on gaming on the new 13" inch rMBP based on all the rumors written in these threads.

    I'm not talking about gaming on ultra settings. But I'd love to see some better FPS in games like World of Warcraft, Diablo III and some new Steam games through Boot Camp.

    Currently I'm gaming on my MacBook Pro 13" (mid 2010) 2.66Ghz C2D with 8GB's of RAM. Graphics card is the Nvidia GeForce 320M with 256MB memory.

    Just wondering what you're thinking, so let me know.
     
  2. Trubbles macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    #2
    I think whatever GPU the 13" rMBP is will be better than what you have.

    The iGPU will be the Intel 5100 or 5200 which are both 1/2 decent. Haswell had two real areas of improvement and GPU was one of them (the other being power consumption).

    I'm REALLY hoping that the next 13" rMBP will have a dedicated GPU option. I have the 15" rMBP right now because I like to be able to game on the go. It's primarily my work computer, which I carry around all day, so gaming is definitely not the priority, but being able to game on the go is a huge perk to me.

    If the next 13" rMBP has a dGPU I'll sell my 15" the next day and buy one. I'd love to shave a whole pound off, and get the benefit of Haswell's battery life. No dGPU, no sale.
     
  3. Mattsasa macrumors 68020

    Mattsasa

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2010
    Location:
    Minnesota
    #3
  4. Trubbles macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    #4
  5. GSPice macrumors 68000

    GSPice

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2008
    #5
    Posts like this are the reason the OP didn't get very far in the Haswell mega thread. ;)
     
  6. HipsterGG thread starter macrumors member

    HipsterGG

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    #6
    Exactly, I just want to now what the current graphic cards do in comparison with my GeForce 320M..

    I'm not a high end gamer, but as stated before, would love to see some good performance increase.
     
  7. 3lite macrumors 6502a

    3lite

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2011
    #7
    13 rMBP will be sufficient. When it comes to 13 vs 15 rMBP this forum seems to go on a tangent with specs orgasm.
     
  8. leman macrumors 604

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    #8
    The HD5000 is somewhere around 2-3 times faster than the 320M as far as real-world game performance goes.
     
  9. Trubbles macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2012
    #9
    Sufficient? For what?

    Just barely playing games?

    dGPU makes a huge difference. The thread asked about gaming performance of a rMBP - I think specs are important?

    ----------

    Huh? What did I do wrong there?

    I was answering in the context of the thread... you know ... How good will Haswell rMBPs do at gaming. Whether or not it gets a dGPU will make a huge difference.
     
  10. actuallyinaus macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2013
    #10
  11. appleii.c macrumors 6502

    appleii.c

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    #11


    I'm in a similar position as yourself. I'm waiting to see what happens with the new MPB's. I have a 2011 15" that uses a little better video card than yours, a Radeon 6750M. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I've enjoyed games like the Dragon Age series, Neverwinter etc. My MBP held up great until I got to games like the Witcher and Skyrim. Didn't play well at all on my machine so I'm looking for a better processor. I hear the current 650M plays well, but was hoping to somewhat "future-proof" my laptop as best I can.

    Now, about your original question... the 13" MBP might not come with it's own dedicated GPU, but with the Iris gpu (Integrated) you will likely get a bit better gaming than with the current ones (with the Intel HD 4000) . If you stick with the 13, I think it's definitely worth the wait. Games coming out next year, and some current ones, may not play on the current 13" lineup.
     
  12. HipsterGG thread starter macrumors member

    HipsterGG

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    #12
    So, do you plan on upgrading your current MacBook to a new rMBP if there will be a dGPU?
     
  13. kaellar macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2012
    #13
    Sufficient for playing most of the games at medium settings and 1280x800 res (I'm talking about 13" rMBP). Look at this another way: 13incher will most definitely include the 5100 graphics, which is about 50% faster than the hd4000 used in 2012 rMBP. Pretty nice step forward, if you ask me.
     
  14. HipsterGG thread starter macrumors member

    HipsterGG

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    #14
    So, if the 5100 graphics is 50% faster then the HD4000. How much faster will it be compared to the GeForce 320M 256mb?
     
  15. kaellar macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2012
    #15
    5100 is on par with 520m which has 1.5x more cores and roughly 40% higher clocks than 320m. So I believe, 5100 is quite an upgrade compared to the 320m:)
     
  16. dusk007 macrumors 68040

    dusk007

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2009
    #16
    You can expect about double the frame rate at the same settings. It is quite a lot faster. Also the CPU side is a lot too coming from a C2D.
     
  17. HipsterGG thread starter macrumors member

    HipsterGG

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    #17
    Never thought of it that way actually. Good one!
     
  18. luffytubby macrumors 6502a

    luffytubby

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    #18
    If Broadwell will bring Quadcore ULV it will be a game changer. The battery life of Haswell with significant more power. With the stagnation of the performance in desktop space, it's very possible.


    Plus, if you counter in DDR4 ram and Thunderbolt 2. If those two will make it for next year, it's going to be incredible significant. The biggest leap since Core 2 Duo came around. For realz homies. For reallzzz
     
  19. appleii.c macrumors 6502

    appleii.c

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    #19
    Yes definitely. if the new MBP have their own dGPU i will upgrade to that, if not I'm hooping to get the current rMBP with the invidia chip (if they dont pull it off the market).
     
  20. Nee412 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Location:
    Sunny England!
    #20
    This seems like the appropriate thread to jump into with my own theoretical question about gaming on the Haswell 13" rMBP.

    In general I don't plan on gaming being the main use of the rMBP. It's replacing my 2.0 ghz C2D 2008 MB. So it's main uses will be lots of word processing, spreadsheets, and photoshop.

    Assuming the base 13" comes with 5100 there are likely only going to be 3 current games I'll want to play on it. Sim City, Star Craft II, and Rollercoaster Tycoon 3.

    I'm a bit of a strategy fan. For anything else I have my Xbox. I'm pretty sure RTC3 and Star Craft II will play alright on the Iris 5100. Sim City is apparently a more demanding game though. Do you guys think I'll be able to get a decent frame rate whilst playing?

    I'm not planning on using the highest settings, but medium would be nice.
     
  21. NickPhamUK macrumors 6502

    NickPhamUK

    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    #21
    I'm serious, for the money you spend on rMBP 13", you could have spent on a gaming laptop like Alienware, MSI, Asus RoG, Sager, Clevo, Razer Blade etc. which delivers far better fps compared to rMBP 13". Sure, Mac is nice, but don't buy it to play games.
     
  22. Nee412 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Location:
    Sunny England!
    #22
    Did you even read the majority of my post. I'm not buying it to specifically play games. I'm buying it to replace my aged 2008 MacBook as my Mac portable for work. For the majority of my gaming I use my Xbox console.

    I was curious as to the frame rates for Sim City because it's one of the very few games I might try on the rMBP. I was hoping for a decent answer, not a Macs aren't for games rant.

    I don't think it's a good financial decision to buy a windows gaming laptop for one game when I'm already invested in the Apple OSX/iOS ecosystem.
     
  23. cirus macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    #23
    True except the 750m includes a boost to 1058mhz and is pretty much capable of running at that speed during furmark in most tested laptops.

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Asus-Zenbook-Infinity-UX301LA-Ultrabook.103027.0.html

    Its too early to tell for sure and possibly something is wrong with this notebook but doesn't look good.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. kaellar macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2012
    #24
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Graphics-5100.91977.0.html

    looks like SimCity should work fine at 1280x800 at low-to-medium settings (25-30fps). nothing to write home about though.
     
  25. Nee412 macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Location:
    Sunny England!
    #25
    Not bad though. Don't really need it to be running on high for the amount of time I will be playing it. Just started looking at notebookcheck. Seems a good place for mobile benchmarks.

    Thanks :)
     

Share This Page