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In the moment I am getting 6 hours out of my MacBook Pro 2016 15" high spec doing simple tasks like Safari and Mail. If I edit pictures with Photoshop I am getting around 3 hours. Apple admits that those times are too short but are not capable and willing to improve anything. They say that all the hardware components are working alright so there is nothing they can do. It's frustrating for me as I am a professional photographer and do use the computer often at locations without power supply. I am very frustrated with Apple's arguments and incapabilty to find a solution for that specific problem, especially as I've paid around £3300 for the device.
 
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It's frustrating for me as I am a professional photographer and do use the computer often at locations without power supply.

Not solving your MBP battery issue but a couple of power banks will let you charge your Mac on the go.
 
Research.
What kind of research?
Battery has the same capacity. Processor might use the same amount of energy, but because it is faster it might need less energy for the same tasks.
Reason I ask is because I see YouTube videos of people having both who report the 2017 model lasts longer on the battery. Not scientific, but field experience.
 
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I’m sure there will be a small difference in battery life , being that it now has a more efficient processor. The biggest plus for me, though, was that every model now has 40GBPS Thunderport 3 on all ports, even the base model without the touchbar.
 
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The biggest plus for me, though, was that every model now has 40GBPS Thunderport 3 on all ports, even the base model without the touchbar.

Are you saying the 2 ports on the right side of the 13" TB are full speed? How did you know?
 
It says "upto 40GBPS". So it's not all conclusive to me.

I can't recall what the page said for the 2016 model.

It listed 20 GBPS for the 2016 models also. The 15" models are listed at up to 40, and all they have are 40. Up to 40 means all of the ports are at least capable of 40GBPS, it just depends on the cable you're using. They have to list 20 if some of the ports are only available with 20GBPS.
 
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It listed 20 GBPS for the 2016 models also. The 15" models are listed at up to 40, and all they have are 40. Up to 40 means all of the ports are at least capable of 40GBPS, it just depends on the cable you're using. They have to list 20 if some of the ports are only available with 20GBPS.

I see... good pick up and one that I have not seen from other reviewers so far.
 
It listed 20 GBPS for the 2016 models also. The 15" models are listed at up to 40, and all they have are 40. Up to 40 means all of the ports are at least capable of 40GBPS, it just depends on the cable you're using. They have to list 20 if some of the ports are only available with 20GBPS.

Doesn't seem quite conclusive to me.

2017 15”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP756?viewlocale=en_IN&locale=en_IN

2017 13”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP755?locale=en_US

2016 13”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP748?locale=en_US

All say “up to 40 Gbps”, even though we know for the sure the 2017 15” and 2016 13” have different capabilities. IIRC, the limitation was due to the number of available PCI-e lanes, which I’m not sure has changed for Kaby Lake.
 
In the moment I am getting 6 hours out of my MacBook Pro 2016 15" high spec doing simple tasks like Safari and Mail. If I edit pictures with Photoshop I am getting around 3 hours. Apple admits that those times are too short but are not capable and willing to improve anything. They say that all the hardware components are working alright so there is nothing they can do. It's frustrating for me as I am a professional photographer and do use the computer often at locations without power supply. I am very frustrated with Apple's arguments and incapabilty to find a solution for that specific problem, especially as I've paid around £3300 for the device.



I'm also a pro shooter with the 15" and I was using the 2015 previously.

I use the 2016 15" tethered (most often to a Nikon D810) and with screen set for 75% I certainly get more than 3 hours while running PS and Lightroom along with a few plug-ins.

Typically I get 5 hours, which is better than last years MBP, though not by a lot. That said, I could certainly get less time depending on what I'm doing, but the Dell units we tried were worse.

What kind of shooting are you doing where you do post on location without power? Most pro's don't do a whole lot of PP without a large calibrated screen, myself included.


R.
 
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Doesn't seem quite conclusive to me.

2017 15”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP756?viewlocale=en_IN&locale=en_IN

2017 13”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP755?locale=en_US

2016 13”
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP748?locale=en_US

All say “up to 40 Gbps”, even though we know for the sure the 2017 15” and 2016 13” have different capabilities. IIRC, the limitation was due to the number of available PCI-e lanes, which I’m not sure has changed for Kaby Lake.

Right... Apple used to have a page somewhere advising people to use the left side ports for high performance devices. Can people still find that page and in reference to the 2017 models?
 
I was investigating the 2017 Macbook Pro 15" model with a Radeon Pro 560. When I looked up the specs, the 560 model was shown to have a 75W TDP.

The 2017 base 15" model has the Radeon Pro 555, which is listed to have a 100W TDP even though the card is less powerful.

It seems to me that the Radeon 560 graphics card in the higher spec 15" Macbook Pro may use slightly less power. Not sure that this will equate to battery life savings but worth considering.

If I've interpreted this info wrong, feel free to correct me.
 
I was investigating the 2017 Macbook Pro 15" model with a Radeon Pro 560. When I looked up the specs, the 560 model was shown to have a 75W TDP.

The 2017 base 15" model has the Radeon Pro 555, which is listed to have a 100W TDP even though the card is less powerful.

It seems to me that the Radeon 560 graphics card in the higher spec 15" Macbook Pro may use slightly less power. Not sure that this will equate to battery life savings but worth considering.

If I've interpreted this info wrong, feel free to correct me.

I believe you've got the numbers for the Radeon RX 500 series desktop cards.

http://gpuboss.com/graphics-card/Radeon-RX-560
 
Even if there is an increase in battery life, I don't think Apple would change their marketing because originally many models didn't reach 10 hours. So it would make sense to wait until it actually surpasses 10 hours in tests
 
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Even if there is an increase in battery life, I don't think Apple would change their marketing because originally many models didn't reach 10 hours. So it would make sense to wait until it actually surpasses 10 hours in tests

Has anyone seen any tests benchmarking the MB Pro TB 13 2016 vs. 2017 on battery? It would be good to see, especially with both running the latest OSX.
 
Hi, I'm shooting often environmental portraits for publications, often tethered and somewhere outside, so no power supply. I am not dimming the display down, my clients want to see what the get ;) And yes I am doing all my post production whenever I have the time with an external Eizo display at home, but sometimes I have to do it on the spot as it is for edition and needs to be filed over quickly. I am using C1 for tethering though and that seems to use up a lot of battery... well, let's see what the future holds, I was told to wait for High Sierra... best
 
Honestly I don't know what you are trying to pull here, but I look back your post history and things just don't add up. 1st I read you diss on the 2016 Macbook pro is a bad design just not long ago. Then you said you ordered the 2017 before review is even out, but you are going to hate it. Then it just so happen it arrived on Friday and on the same day you said you exchanged "4" of them and on the "5th" one, and some how all 5 of them has cosmetic issue. Not only that, you managed to do all that in a single day and have spare time to test 4 of them to confirm that there were no keyboard issue instead of going straight to exchange. After going through all that, you even upgraded your Mac to High Sierra, and decided that you wanted to unplug your brand new, recently upgraded to beta OS Sierra without charger over night, woke up at 6am just to check battery life without ever thinking about plugging it in and go to sleep so you can wake up again to check the battery life???
Oh WOW! What a epic story you got there!!!

Nice detective work!
 
I love folks trying to keep the myth alive...

YES, the 15" 2016 MBP will get 10 hours or more.

View attachment 703345 View attachment 703346

Obviously the pics above settle the silly folk who don't own one.

WHAT you do is 99% of battery life. If I need to use 90% of screen brightness to run Photoshop and edit, I'll be lucky to get 5 hours. I've been working on a screenplay since 9 am. It's now 1:28 pm and I have 5:22 remaining.

So what you're doing is the big picture and somehow people think that 10 hours should be the bottom line no matter what you're doing. How bright are your keys? Are you using the touchbar a lot? Plugged into devices? What apps are open? It ALL factors in. Even with basic tasks battery life fluctuates depending how much typing and trackpad use is going on. My 2015 15" MBP had worse battery performance across the board, regardless of what I was doing.

My 13" does not do as well and I usually get 7-8 hours. But both machines have very good battery life so who knows how these myths continue.

I bet the 2017 has a bit better life, but obviously not a big enough difference to matter much. I expect the next cycle to see a more substantial leap.


R.

How did you make the battery% to show up in Touchbar?
 
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