Other Battery size for XS, XS Max and XR finally revieled!

jabingla2810

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XS-2658mAh
XR-2942mAh
XS Max-3174mAh

XS has a smaller battery than last years X which has a 2716mAh.

Why do you think they did this!?
It may be smaller but lasts longer.

Why its smaller? Could be anything... new speakers? New camera sensor? New circuit board?
 

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hmm XR could potentially have great battery life w/it's lower res LCD screen.

XS max has reviewed to have great battery life already, if a true dark mode ever came to fruition it'd last even longer with the OLED screen.
 

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It may be smaller but lasts longer.

Why its smaller? Could be anything... new speakers? New camera sensor? New circuit board?
Yes but I want to know why it last longer!? Cause of the A12, it’s like they put in a smaller battery cause they made it more efficient to even out. Why not keep making them bigger while more efficient to make it last even longer for the sake of there customers!
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hmm XR could potentially have great battery life w/it's lower res LCD screen.

XS max has reviewed to have great battery life already, if a true dark mode ever came to fruition it'd last even longer with the OLED screen.
Ya they said XR should last the longest of the 3
 

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They made the xs more efficient than the x.
As some reviews pointed out the camera bezel is a little bigger on the xs so maybe thats why the battery size had to shrink, but im betting its the a12 being more efficient.
 

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It may be smaller but lasts longer.

Why its smaller? Could be anything... new speakers? New camera sensor? New circuit board?
won't know for sure until a ifixit breakdown or something similar.

Maybe additional antennas?
 

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They made the xs more efficient than the x.
As some reviews pointed out the camera bezel is a little bigger on the xs so maybe thats why the battery size had to shrink, but im betting its the a12 being more efficient.
I am pretty sure we would all be ok to have a thicker/bigger phone to have better battery life.
 

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Apple generally doesn't shrink battery size unless they need to.

iPhone 6: 6.91 Whr
iPhone 6s: 6.31 Whr - Add 3D Touch layer, Taptic Engine
iPhone 7: 7.45 Whr - 3.5mm removal
iPhone 8: 6.96 Whr - Add glass for wireless charging

iPhone X: 10.35 Whr
iPhone Xs: 10.13 Whr - Add 4Tx antennas
 
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Apple generally doesn't shrink battery size unless they need to.

iPhone 6: 6.91 Whr
iPhone 6s: 6.31 Whr - Add 3D Touch layer, Taptic Engine
iPhone 7: 7.45 Whr - 3.5mm removal
iPhone 8: 6.96 Whr - Add glass for wireless charging

iPhone X: 10.35 Whr
iPhone Xs: 10.13 Whr - Add 4Tx antennas
I know, but why not make it a tiny bit thicker. No one would give a crap.
 
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Renho

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Cost - by keeping the thickness the same they can reuse more of the tooling from the assembly of the X (especially since the X is no longer being manufactured).
They are just making me more and more not want to do the yearly upgrades I have been doing since they started. It’s more about profits/investors than what is best for the consumer. The $400 increase in 2 years with the other things is just sad. I think I will be keeping this years model for years now.
 

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They are just making me more and more not want to do the yearly upgrades I have been doing since they started. It’s more about profits/investors than what is best for the consumer. The $400 increase in 2 years with the other things is just sad. I think I will be keeping this years model for years now.
As a corporation, maximizing shareholder profits has always been of primary importance to Apple, that said I do feel like it has become more obvious to people that profit is their main driver as they are running out of opportunities to increase profits by increasing sales so the last few years they have been mostly increasing profits by increasing the average selling price of their products. Of course that can only be taken so far as the market will only bear so much so it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years - I suppose that is why Apple is pushing hard into services.
 

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They are just making me more and more not want to do the yearly upgrades I have been doing since they started. It’s more about profits/investors than what is best for the consumer. The $400 increase in 2 years with the other things is just sad. I think I will be keeping this years model for years now.
How long do you think a company can do poorly by the consumer before it affects profits and investors?
 

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They are just making me more and more not want to do the yearly upgrades I have been doing since they started. It’s more about profits/investors than what is best for the consumer. The $400 increase in 2 years with the other things is just sad. I think I will be keeping this years model for years now.
Also, I used to upgrade my iPhone every 2 years, however I have now had my 6s for 3 years and even though I really want something shiny and new with current cost of iPhones (and the fact that my 6s is still running great, especially with iOS 12) maybe I should hold out for one more year. The only thing that is really making me want to upgrade now is that I want a better camera, and I think the cameras have come a long way since the 6s. I'm waiting to see what the Xr is really like and then I'll decide...
 

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How long do you think a company can do poorly by the consumer before it affects profits and investors?
Well they are making them last longer, iOS12 has older phone owners not wanting to upgrade. This year has been the most lackluster launch in recent memory. People are already not upgrading as much but that could all
Change with the XR. Phone sales year over year has already topped out so they have to make more per handset. Services is there next best thing for them. Also depends on what they come up with next year! Only the premium customers will upgrade often everybody else about every 3/4 years.
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As a corporation, maximizing shareholder profits has always been of primary importance to Apple, that said I do feel like it has become more obvious to people that profit is their main driver as they are running out of opportunities to increase profits by increasing sales so the last few years they have been mostly increasing profits by increasing the average selling price of their products. Of course that can only be taken so far as the market will only bear so much so it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years - I suppose that is why Apple is pushing hard into services.
Yup, they figure make the phones last longer. People won’t uograde as much but services will always be there so they make it up there. It’s the customers that leave is what will hurt them. Depends on what they make next year if it has that wow factor. But the XR will get all those 6/6+ people to upgrade this year.
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Also, I used to upgrade my iPhone every 2 years, however I have now had my 6s for 3 years and even though I really want something shiny and new with current cost of iPhones (and the fact that my 6s is still running great, especially with iOS 12) maybe I should hold out for one more year. The only thing that is really making me want to upgrade now is that I want a better camera, and I think the cameras have come a long way since the 6s. I'm waiting to see what the Xr is really like and then I'll decide...
XR will be ur best bet. But iOS 12 is making them all run great so wait another year. Hopefully they have that triple lens camera we are hearing so much about. Then you will really like the pics!
 

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Apple has always given us “about a day” battery life. I could easily look past this IF they offered the amazing Apple smart battery case for the plus sized phones, but it doesn’t look like that will ever happen. Most likely that product has been phased out now that they don’t have a small phone like the 6/7/8 that has a tiny battery.
 

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Apple has always given us “about a day” battery life. I could easily look past this IF they offered the amazing Apple smart battery case for the plus sized phones, but it doesn’t look like that will ever happen. Most likely that product has been phased out now that they don’t have a small phone like the 6/7/8 that has a tiny battery.
I was expecting fast charging out of the box. Only to see the same 5w and usb A cord. Freaking so ghetto for top shelf items.
 

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I was expecting fast charging out of the box. Only to see the same 5w and usb A cord. Freaking so ghetto for top shelf items.
No fast charger has never really bugged me as much as the size of the batteries being so small compared to the size of the phone itself. I get it that it’s got a ton of stuff inside, but they could make it a few mm thicker and add a much appreciated 500mah.
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The Xr will be a battery champ
An iPhone battery champ, yeah. Apple has standby drain down to a science. If they ever gave us a large battery it would probably be the thing that brought a lot of android power users over.
 

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No fast charger has never really bugged me as much as the size of the batteries being so small compared to the size of the phone itself. I get it that it’s got a ton of stuff inside, but they could make it a few mm thicker and add a much appreciated 500mah.
I have fast charging. I spent an extra $85 last year for car and home. But that’s not the point. The point is they have these “premium” devices that are $1300 and they come with proprietary tech. USBA, 5W brick?!?!? Give me a freaking break, just seem they are giving us all the middle finger and saying we don’t need to give you up to date stuff for your really $$ Phone.
 
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tonybarnaby

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I have fast charging. I spent an extra $85 last year for car and home. But that’s not the point. The point is they have these “premium” devices that are $1300 and they come with proprietary tech. USBA, 5W brick?!?!? Give me a freaking break, just seem they are giving us all the middle finger and saying we don’t need to give you up to date stuff for your really $$ Phone.
Apple has never been all about giving people a ton of perks. Fast chargers should 100% be included, but it’s Apple.

I saw something recently that said the #1 Apple accessory sold at Best Buy over the last 2 years was a headphone dongle. People are all making money selling Apple accessories.
 

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Apple has never been all about giving people a ton of perks. Fast chargers should 100% be included, but it’s Apple.

I saw something recently that said the #1 Apple accessory sold at Best Buy over the last 2 years was a headphone dongle. People are all making money selling Apple accessories.
And can you believe it will no longer be boxed. Jesus.. so they don’t make lightning headphones, geesh
 

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I think that the 6s is the first phone that is showing us that you don't need to upgrade more often than every 3 years or so to have a perfectly viable phone.
 

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I think that the 6s is the first phone that is showing us that you don't need to upgrade more often than every 3 years or so to have a perfectly viable phone.
I'm still running a 5S which works perfectly fine on ios12. Decided to upgrade to the XS solely for the camera.
 
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