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BBC iPlayer Now Available for Mac

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Great news about iPlayer. Does anyone have any ideas for transferring content to view on Apple TV, or is this not possible?
 
The content is not being restricted because internet users outside the UK don't have a TV Liscence; the TV Liscence website here states:
You do not need a TV Licence to view video clips on the internet, as long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time as you are viewing it.
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However, a lot of shows are no longer made by the BBC and each individual production company has the right to decide whether their show is avaliable on iPlayer at all - whether that is in the UK, or anywhere else. The same applies for TV, and that is why any international BBC channel such as BBC America has a different playlist, and (as far as I know) shows like Top Gear are not available.

The iPlayer help page here says:
Rights agreements mean that BBC iPlayer television programmes are only available to users to download or stream (Click to Play) in the UK. However, BBC Worldwide is working on an international version, which we will make available as soon as possible.
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So there is hope..

Even when the international version is released, I would imagine that it will show a similar set of shows to the BBC channel in the viewer's area so only shows airing on BBC America would be available in the USA iPlayer.. But your guess is as good as mine.
 
Given it a go now, the quality's passable and I'm using a 27" 1920x1200 display. Shame the online streaming's broken in my experience. Ah well. So long as downloading works.

Have never thought about using iPlayer on the PS3, just seems like an added hassle. Good to know your options though.
 
sparkytrs said:
However, a lot of shows are no longer made by the BBC and each individual production company has the right to decide whether their show is avaliable on iPlayer at all - whether that is in the UK, or anywhere else. The same applies for TV, and that is why any international BBC channel such as BBC America has a different playlist, and (as far as I know) shows like Top Gear are not available.
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It's not just externally made programmes - even in house programmes will use huge amounts of other people's copyright (music, for a start). Top Gear for example is blocked for music rights reasons, and the versions shown internationally are re-edited with different soundtracks. Given that re-editing happens after the show airs, you're not going to get it in time for the iPlayer window.

So there is hope..

Even when the international version is released, I would imagine that it will show a similar set of shows to the BBC channel in the viewer's area so only shows airing on BBC America would be available in the USA iPlayer.. But your guess is as good as mine.
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Pretty much. The selection might get a bit bigger and a bit quicker, but it's never going to be simultaneous access to the UK.

One would also note, of course, that some BBC programmes (once their international rights clearance is sorted out) already are sold on iTunes in the US...

Phazer
 
There are sites that allow you to essentially spoof your IP, I know someone that was using it to watch Hulu in Japan. Again questionable legality I believe.
 
The Phazer said:
They're not made publically available - they're under terms and conditions and only made available for the purposes of streaming to iPhones.
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Wrong again. If they weren't publically available, then the iPhone wouldn't be able to access them without some kind of authentication. There is no authentication, just some very basic user-agent/http header detection.

Besides, you can argue about the legalities of it if you like, it doesn't really bother me. I have no moral issue with using the iplayer-dl script for personal use only and I'm not sure why anybody else would either.
 
That's awesome. But I use that Grabber app. Nice to see though, the iPlayer has saved my life on more than a few occasions 😀 before we got a DVR though.
 
the quality is a bit... less to be desired, but... it works!

with time, I'm sure the quality will be fixed. people complaining about interface, resources ect... ITS A BETA... wait till february for the full version.
 
sparkytrs said:
The content is not being restricted because internet users outside the UK don't have a TV Liscence; the TV Liscence website here states:

However, a lot of shows are no longer made by the BBC and each individual production company has the right to decide whether their show is avaliable on iPlayer at all - whether that is in the UK, or anywhere else. The same applies for TV, and that is why any international BBC channel such as BBC America has a different playlist, and (as far as I know) shows like Top Gear are not available.
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Almost true. You missed this though
It makes no difference what equipment you use - whether it’s a laptop, PC, mobile phone, digital box, DVD recorder or a TV set - you still need a licence.
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Basically, even if you don't have a TV in your house, to watch shows on BBC iPlayer, you do need a TV license.

Just an extra note. A Production company doesn't decide if they end up on the iPlayer service. It's down to broadcasting rights. If the BBC has ownership, they have control if to air it again or not. In most cases they lease the rights for broadcast while retaining ownership. It's more likely down to popularity if it ends up on the iPlayer. Top Gear is an obvious example. They show the last episode from the last series along with the complete series so far. They own the rights to the programme but lease the older series to Dave.
 
Basically, even if you don't have a TV in your house, to watch shows on BBC iPlayer, you do need a TV license.
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Not true. This is the dirty little secret that the Beeb doesn't really want people to know. The programmes appear on iPlayer an hour after broadcast and there is a caveat in the license system that means that it is totally legal to watch on iPlayer without the need for a license. Many people are doing just this and the BBC recently had to admit that they are not breaking the law by doing so.
 
SimonMW said:
Not true. This is the dirty little secret that the Beeb doesn't really want people to know. The programmes appear on iPlayer an hour after broadcast and there is a caveat in the license system that means that it is totally legal to watch on iPlayer without the need for a license. Many people are doing just this and the BBC recently had to admit that they are not breaking the law by doing so.
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Indeed, a Licence is only required to watch live broadcasts; thus iPlayer is exempt.
 
Ah cheeky, didn't hear about that.

But what are the BBC starting to roll out across the iPlayer service? Live streaming of TV shows. So, in a roundabout way, my point does stand. Only just though 😛
 
had no problems setting up iplayer to download but they will not open in real player? What else could I use to play the progs?
 
I didn't realise you could watch live TV
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Just go to /today on the schedule and it says NOW ON..
 
cyberjunky said:
uhuh, you couldn't be more wrong. You yanks have tonnes of websites us brits visit that tell us for US citizens only, if not just e-stores and so fourth but video streaming sites too. Too many a time i have seen youtube like sites that work in agreement with tv programming corporations like fox to put 'The Simpsons' for free on their site, but wait im told because im in the UK i cant watch it due to licensing issues outside the us. So get off your high horse and get used to it, everyone else outside the US has to put up with the same BS from many a site from the USA. Deal with it.
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Exactly.

Not least there's that thing, the I-Tunes Music Store.
 
caribousteaks said:
No, we foreigners don't pay television tax, but online who does? No one! US and other foreign shows can be viewed anywhere when accessed online, and often in HD.
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Err no we can't watch US shows online. I am greeted with a "sorry this is not available in your location" when I visit NBC, FOX etc. Not that there is anything worth watching on those networks. We can't watch Hulu, we can't watch South Park online (legally). And whats more is this is advert supported, meaning if we were allowed to watch it we would be paying for it by watching through the adverts like you guys do. The BBC is not advert supported (in the UK), meaning we would have to pay the licence whilst you watch it.

You might also like to know that a lot of the shows on BBC America (for example Skins) is not made by the BBC, its made by Channel 4, meaning that even if they could sort out an advert supported iplayer for international users, its quite possible that half the programmes you watch on BBC America or BBC Worldwide would not be on there. This is what they mean when they say they cannot sort out licence agreements.

Basically, ****.

Oh see attachment, thats what we get when we try to watch South Park from the South Park website 🙄
 

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