BBC live stream

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  1. melapple macrumors regular

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    Using the iplayer app for Apple TV I'm able to live stream in HD BBC 2, 3 and 4. BBC one, on the other hand never streams in HD for me.
    Is live streaming of BBC one with this app supposed to be this way?
     
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  3. brandscill macrumors 6502

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    Streams HD for me
     
  4. melapple thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thank you
     
  5. SimonTheSoundMa macrumors 6502a

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    Just limited to 1280x720 at 25p. All 1080i content is downscaled and made 25 frame progessive. Also, change the Apple TV to 50hz in Settings, it'll remove the stuttering frames. 1080i made programmes will still stutter however.

    The only HD live stream is BBC News, I'll speak to my contacts at BBC iPlayer team again and find out.

    Black level is still set incorrectly also.
     
  6. lemonkid macrumors member

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    How do you check the resolution when it comes in? I get a nasty good picture. But I don't know what quality it is.
     
  7. Sakurambo-kun macrumors 6502

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    You have contacts on the iPlayer team? There must be an interesting story behind the ATV version of iPlayer. Clearly a rush job built on prexisting TVML templates it completely jettisoned the multi format standardised iPlayer interface that is common to all TV/console platforms. It's also missing pretty much every iPlayer feature, such as Favourites, BBC ID Log-In, cross device playback syncing, History, and TV Schedules. I wonder if Apple paid the BBC to push something out the door quickly - I remember it took the BBC an entire year to get an Xbox One app written, although they did at least deliver a fully feature complete app at launch.

    I assume iPlayer on the Apple TV will improve. It feels very rudimentary at the moment, with the lack of Favourites in particular being inexcusable. It's also missing every Apple TV feature - no Siri or Top Shelf. As Apple are clearly (and unusually) keen on iPlayer, I hope Siri will make an appearance soon. The BBC do a great job with the iPad/iPhone iPlayer apps, so the Apple TV app has a heck of a long way to go to catch up.
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    I don't think it's possible to ever get a good picture from iPlayer on any platform. Far too much compression and it isn't in HD. (720p doesn't count) With Netflix and Amazon both in 4K and HDR, the BBC are (sadly as usual) far, far behind. I know the government wants to kill them off financially, but the BBC will do themselves in if they can't bring iPlayer into the modern world.
     
  8. lemonkid macrumors member

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    But is it possible to check at which resolution the signal comes in? From a 'live' stream I don't always get good picture. But the other 'on demand' files are much better than I get with the 'iplayer downloader' on my computer. That is something with 720p I assume.
     
  9. davidoloan, Feb 9, 2016
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    davidoloan macrumors 6502

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    I don't think anything on the Apple TV4 iplayer looks as good as Freeview HD yet. But hopefully its just a matter of time.

    I also don't think many of the Freeview HD broadcasts look very good. There are very noticeable quality differences in programmes and the best quality seems to be on special events or sports events. On Apple TV4 the quality looks pretty uniform, though the news channel looks slightly better but the ticker is juddery.

    I also think in general the Freeview HD picture isn't as good as it used to be. I often find myself thinking it looks very bad on a good plasma. But it might be just that internet streams have got incrementally better since HD TV was introduced, but I suspect they are broadcasting a lot of low bitrate rubbish.
     
  10. melapple thread starter macrumors regular

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    don't know why but I'm still getting SD definition on BBC one and HD quality on the rest.
    The guy who runs the smart DNS I'm using assured me that the settings are the same.
     
  11. brandscill macrumors 6502

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    You're not UK based?
     
  12. melapple thread starter macrumors regular

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    no
     
  13. lemonkid macrumors member

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    I definitely don't get two different qualities. They are equally acceptable ( or unacceptable to some ;-). But I do not believe that the quality differs much from what you get when you get it from your local cable company...
     

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