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BBC Radio in iTunes

Airfoil....

tomthebom said:
Hi, after I have tried to find this solution I found a programm called "Airfoil" by rogue, that basically connects the audio stream of any programm to loudspeakers available on your airport. Even comes with its own DVD player. Works pretty solid and without trouble...
Regards, tom ;)
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Thanks for this... just downloaded Airfoil and it's exactly what I wanted.... Now streaming Radio 1 around my Air Tunes speakers... :)
 
Weird problem

Thanks for the files jimbo, they work *almost* flawlessl :)

I've got a bit of a problem getting the sound out to AirTunes speakers from iTunes - all other songs/radio stations play fine over AirTunes but the output from these BBC Radio stations just refuses to go anywhere except the speakers on the local machine.

Any ideas? Possibly down to an upgrade to iTunes 8.1 last night. I did have it working earlier in the day...
 
Airfoil is the answer....

The easiest way to listen to BBC radio on your remote speakers is to download AirFoil.. http://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/ ($25) it will stream the audio from any program (Firefox, IE, Spotify) to your remote Airport express speakers.. Works really well I have it on both my Mac mini and PC Laptop..

Best app I have brought after remote for Ipod Touch...:apple:
 
Almost Fantastic

I'm in Ghana and it works fine although there is a lot of noise in the background - any suggestions?

Now if someone can just tell me how I can get the F1 GP this weekend I'll be sorted!
 
Hi there

All good in Australia. Been looking for something now for a while to listen to live F1 action.

Cheers again
 
Then again maybe not, it does not allow me to listen to radio 5 live sports extra when certain events i.e F1 are on yet before this program started it was fine. Keeps telling me there are rights restrictions........ Any Ideas????????
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Radio1-4 Error

Hi,

I have the same problems as some of you had.
Works fine except for radio 1, radio 2, radio 3 and radio 4

Using leopard 10.5.6
WMV updated with last version

Any idea?

Thanks,
 
Rackman said:
Then again maybe not, it does not allow me to listen to radio 5 live sports extra when certain events i.e F1 are on yet before this program started it was fine. Keeps telling me there are rights restrictions........ Any Ideas????????
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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This is because for premium events such as Football, Tennis, F1 where there is a worldwide demand/market BBC only buy broadcasting rights for the UK (you know what the first B stands for, right?).

Therefore when the broadcast channel the event is being carried on (e.g. Radio 5 Live) is being streamed, they *have* to prevent the coverage of said event from being broadcast outside the UK.

Often this equates to just blocking the stream completely.

You used to be able to get around this for some events, for example a Liverpool vs Reading game was not available on R5L but BBC Radio Merseyside were happily providing coverage; this doesnt seem to be the case any more.
 
I've been using these streams in iTunes for ages, however today something appears to have changed. The R2 stream stopped working (mid-broadcast) and likewise R1.

R3, R4 and R5 are still working.

Pretty sure nothing changed my end as this happened whilst I was happily listening to Ken Bruce :eek: Have had to resort to the browser-based streaming which doesn't have the benefit of SRS iWow.

Have re-downloaded the .mov files from the URL below and opened in QuickTime; same mileage R3 works, R2 fails with Unknown Error.

Interested to know if the OP can clarify any of this meanwhile I've got R3 playing.....:eek:

efcjimbo said:
Hello boys & girls, I've created some files that can play live BBC radio in iTunes.

I'm looking to see if the files work outside the UK. So if your in USA or France can u download the files and give them a test and leave some feed back.

Instructions (NOTE MAC ONLY)
Download the files and drag on to the itunes icon to import.

http://homepage.mac.com/jimmyhanna/sound/bbc.zip
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Our iTunes listening days are over. BBC have changed something in the stream to make the files invalid.
I can't create new files with the old software I'm using.
I was using an old version of Flip4Mac (2.1.0.33) PPC that came out few years ago with a bug that was fixed a few days later. The bug was that it allowed you to save from the player menu in the brower that are usually greyed out by the supplier of the content.
This still work but for the BBC streams, it no longer plays on the old version of Flip4mac and so cannot be saved.

BBC in iTunes is no longer!
 
excellent

thanks for this

i've been looking for something like for ages? (clearly, not very efficiently as it's been around for some time)

1. is there a way to get it into the itunes radio section rather than music section?

2. like another replier, i'd like radio london on there, too

best
 
Still working - kind of...

Some of my streams are still working, R1, 1 Extra, R2, R5Live Extra, 6 Music & Asian Network are kaput.
Still can't work out why I can only play them locally on my computer but not stream the audio via airport express - anyone any ideas?
 
Some progress

efcjimbo said:
Our iTunes listening days are over.<snip>
BBC in iTunes is no longer!
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Not so quickly (maybe :))

If you look at this here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2.asx


This will play in Safari (presumably via Flip4Mac).

I actually pulled the XML in via the command-line:

Code: 
/usr/bin/wget  http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2.asx
 -O /tmp/radio2.xml

You'll see all the Radio 2 WMA asx streams in the XML nodes:

Code: 
<ref href="mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/bbc_ami/radio2/
radio2_bb_live_eq1_sl0?BBC-
UID=14393f9875589e188124b50a6159b72cc39e8bb7d03012e1027810a4041d3254
&SSO2-UID=" />

These have changed from that used by the OP to create the WMA Quicktime streams:

Code: 
wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio3/radio3_nb_e1s1

I loaded one of these newer Radio 2 streams into QuickTime sucessfully (I then repeated the process for Radio 1-5 just to be sure).
I was able to use OxED to edit the original URL in the Radio 2 .mov file to the original Radio 3 URL:

changing this field:

Code: 
mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/[B]radio2/radio2_nb_e1s1[/B]

to this:

Code: 
mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/[B]radio3/radio3_nb_e1s1[/B]


Which was sucessful (i.e the Radio 2 .mov stream file worked, but picked up the Radio 3 stream).

However when I tried to do this for the longer URL from the XML file which includes the UID, the stream wouldn't load into iTunes. I suspect this is because there's a field in the .mov file that restricts or defines the length of the stream URL. So I created a tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/c4j6wz

of this stream's URL and put the tiny URL into the stream .mov file but still no joy. When I have a moment I'll check if the paid for version of Filp4Mac allows me to save a stream to a .mov file (I can't tell from the quick look at the feature list). I'm not sure if this is something QuickTime Pro (or QuickTime in Snow Leopard) can do out of the box.

As far as other streams are concerned, the BBC only stream WMA for the national stations (as well as RealAudio RAM streams), the local stations (suchs as London) are only in RAM. This website is quite usueful for looking up streams:

http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk

You can read more about how the BBC are sorting out their streams here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2009/03/coyopas_guts.shtml
 
Definite progress

Hi guys,

I have managed to embed the new url's into the movie files. Tullys was almost there. Take the longest url (World Service), paste in the new url and pad at the end with spaces so that the length is the same.

I've attached a zip with the files.

Andy
 

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Sneaky!

Haha! For a month or so I thought I was talking to myself; thanks for doing this Zandy; Ken Bruce is back in iTunes!

Happy Days!
zandy said:
Hi guys,

I have managed to embed the new url's into the movie files. Tullys was almost there. Take the longest url (World Service), paste in the new url and pad at the end with spaces so that the length is the same.

I've attached a zip with the files.

Andy
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Sound problem

My music plays from iTunes through Airport Express connected to my hifi. BBC plays only through the PC speakers even with the Airport Express connection selected in iTunes
 
world service only in canada

Import was fine.
silence on all stations except World service which works great.
Appreciate your eforst - keep trying pls!
 
TaniwhaNL said:
My music plays from iTunes through Airport Express connected to my hifi. BBC plays only through the PC speakers even with the Airport Express connection selected in iTunes
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I get that too. Shame, as it works ace apart from that.
 
Great Work!

Great Work zandy and tullys! Thanks for this.

I had been using a webclip of the iPlayer radio console on my dashboard, but this is far better!

For those having trouble, I can only imagine you're having problems with reading the contents of the mov files - codec trouble! Make sure you have perian, filp4mac and realplayer installed and up to date. These 3 will mean you can play just about all content, audio or video in iTunes or Quicktime.
I haven't been near VLC in months and months.
 
zandy said:
Hi guys,

Take the longest url (World Service), paste in the new url and pad at the end with spaces so that the length is the same.

Andy
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I downloaded your zip but don't understand what this sentence means. Where can I find the World Service URL that I need to paste? I can only get the world service radio link to work. All the others don't function. :confused:

(I have all the correct codecs as far as I am aware, perian, flip4mac, vlc etc).
 
You don't need to worry about the re-pasting of the longest URL, this was just an explanation of how we worked around the problem from when the BBC changed the feed URLs which broke the original files.

Make sure you download the zip from zandy (Jun 17 2009):

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=176611&d=1245235288

not the original zip from efcjimbo (Apr 21 2008)

After that all I needed to do was to unzip and add the directory into my iTunes Library. I've only recently installed perian for other reasons (so as far as I'm concerned only flip4mac is needed to decode these streams).

kdum8 said:
I downloaded your zip but don't understand what this sentence means. Where can I find the World Service URL that I need to paste? I can only get the world service radio link to work. All the others don't function. :confused:

(I have all the correct codecs as far as I am aware, perian, flip4mac, vlc etc).
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