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The original costs of production are almost wholly covered by the license fee, correct, so why does BBC Studios have revenue of £1.4 billion and return only £200 million or so of that to the BBC proper as its "profit"?

So cost of sales (distribution etc) was, simplistically, over a BILLION pounds? It's completely nuts. And they do their very best to hide the detail in their accounts across their various subsidiaries.
You realise BBC Studios is the company that actually creates the content, as well as selling it overseas? I'm guessing that billion pounds of spending was mostly production costs.
 
Apart from when joint projects the BBC has been involved in have aired overseas before the UK rather than at the same time. Killing Eve is one example where there was a 3-4 week delay and people in the UK were forced to download it illegally as it was being spoilt all over social media. Another example is when the BBC only had partial F1 coverage, yet the full BBC coverage was being shown in other countries. My parents have stopped paying their license fee and I’m considering it as I recently took a BBC survey where I admitted I rarely watch it anymore. Commercial channels and subscription services like Netflix are becoming popular enough to threaten what used to be a very good service on the BBC.
Killing Eve was funded by BBC America, not the licence fee, also subsequents seasons were shown the UK a day after US transmission. The global feed for Formula 1 has been provided by FOM since 2004, nothing to do with the BBC.

Here in Ireland, the tv licence is broadly the same as the UK, but we get considerable less value for money, count yourself lucky!
 
Killing Eve was funded by BBC America, not the licence fee, also subsequents seasons were shown the UK a day after US transmission. The global feed for Formula 1 has been provided by FOM since 2004, nothing to do with the BBC.

Here in Ireland, the tv licence is broadly the same as the UK, but we get considerable less value for money, count yourself lucky!

I’m aware of the background of both examples. The bbc don’t own the feed with F1 but we’re providing full coverage in other countries besides the UK. That didn’t go down particularly well at the time.
 
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Then the solution to your missive is simple. Prevent the BBC from selling their programming overseas if you don’t believe that the additional profit money that they collect from it, however big or small, is worth the trouble. In return, we here in the states can shut down the supply of medical technology and pharmacology that our companies sell the good people in the UK at a fraction of the cost that we in the US pay for it. Sound fair to you?

Your argument against overseas programming sales clearly isn’t so much simple as it is simplistic.
What a ridiculous comparison.
 
The BBC are currently surveying people in the UK and many of the questions on the survey are asking about rival subscriptions and probing the reasons people may not watch much BBC content. Apparently they’ve lost over 500k license fee payers in recent years as more and more people take their chance by not paying it. I’m seriously considering it after this year as a few of my friends and family have abandoned it.
 
If you want an example of the bbc , they’re currently selling off their old tv centre as luxury flats starting at 1 million quid . We paid for that building with our taxes and our license fees . That just about sums them up.

While prosecuting elderly people on their pension.
No they aren’t. The developer who bought the old studio’s is selling them. BBC got a smaller fee ages ago and that money was used to develop new studios, including one in Glasgow, and one in London.
 
The government reduced BBC funding - they didn't make the BBC do anything regarding the free licence for the elderly.
Don't be so basic. Read between the (very obvious) lines. Clearly the govt forced the BBC to cut the free over-75s license, SO THE GOVT WOULDN'T HAVE TO LOOK BAD DOING IT THEMSELVES.

The govt told the BBC they weren't funding the over-75s subsidy anymore, and then left the decision up to the BBC whether they'd now cover the cost from their budget.
The govt knew full well the BBC wouldn't be able to afford it without drastic cuts to services that would badly water down the content levels.
Thus leaving the BBC between a rock and a hard place, meaning they were, by proxy, forced by govt to re-charge most over-75s again.

And I don't blame them for doing so, nor do any of my 75+ family members. While they'd of course like to not have to pay, they rightly blame govt for this, not the BBC.
 
As someone who has spent SO much time in hotel rooms around the world for the past 10 years working... I always come home and appreciate BBC content and BBC News so much.

Not many nations have such a good reputation globally for quality output both in entertainment, documentaries and news.

I don't agree with criminalising those who don't pay the licence fee however I do fear we will regret losing the BBC if we go about breaking down the main source of funding.
 
You shouldn't have to pay a TV licence fee if you don't use the BBC.

Too many ex-public school middle managers in the BBC.

That's are where the savings should have been made.
I’d live to be able to opt out and just have the BBC channels disconnected. They’d never offer that though as they’d lose millions of pounds due to the amount of people who would drop it. The fact they’ve lost over 500k license payers highlights how fed up people are with the fee going up every year for so many repeated programs. I’d sooner pay for one-off programs of interest than £157.50 a year for a set of channels I rarely watch.
 
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I’d live to be able to opt out and just have the BBC channels disconnected. They’d never offer that though as they’d lose millions of pounds due to the amount of people who would drop it. The fact they’ve lost over 500k license payers highlights how fed up people are with the fee going up every year for so many repeated programs. I’d sooner pay for one-off programs of interest than £157.50 a year for a set of channels I rarely watch.
Maybe look at it not as a subscription but as a tax. You're paying for a license to receive live broadcasts, the money from which happens to go to the BBC. By paying that license to be able to watch the things you want to watch on Sky/ITV/etc, you're funding programmes that wouldn't otherwise be made, aimed at audiences which aren't usually served commercially.

Take the recent educational stuff for kids during the pandemic. That was a genuine public service that a commercial broadcaster would never have bothered with because it wouldn't interest advertisers.

I am in the same boat tbh - I barely watch anything on the BBC, it's not for me. But I feel it is a net good thing for the country. Just like benefits payments, which I pay for out of my taxes but don't use myself. That's how I see it anyway.
 
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I’d live to be able to opt out and just have the BBC channels disconnected. They’d never offer that though as they’d lose millions of pounds due to the amount of people who would drop it. The fact they’ve lost over 500k license payers highlights how fed up people are with the fee going up every year for so many repeated programs. I’d sooner pay for one-off programs of interest than £157.50 a year for a set of channels I rarely watch.
That's really short sighted. The license fee rises a whopping £1.50 on 01.04.2021.
Is that £1.50 per week: NO. Is that £1.50 per month: NO. That's £1.50 for the YEAR.
Or £0.125 per month.
As a comparison, commercial operator Netflix raised their prices £2 per MONTH or £24 for the year.

This thing about repeats is silly too. Sure scheduled TV has repeats, but any simple check of iPlayer content available tells you an absolute ton of streaming options are available there, that can be watched whenever people want. Stats clearly show that linear live TV viewing is decreasing, so them focusing on their on-demand content and offering it for longer there (subject to available rights) is much appreciated by most. The same thing for radio: on-demand and podcasts are booming, over live, and they offer a lot of content areas there as well.

There are also soft power things like World Service, that help those in many countries get consistent unbiased news, that they often simply can't at the moment. This has been one part of fostering many nations own news services to grow and in a small way help democracy flourish over the last 70 or so years. Unfortunately, that battle continues to this day.

Finally, the BBC has also often been instrumental in pushing technical improvements in broadcasting. They're also one of the few permanent European Broadcasting Union members, whose work involves improvements to various broadcasting standards, both technically, and beyond.
 
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Maybe look at it not as a subscription but as a tax. You're paying for a license to receive live broadcasts, the money from which happens to go to the BBC. By paying that license to be able to watch the things you want to watch on Sky/ITV/etc, you're funding programmes that wouldn't otherwise be made, aimed at audiences which aren't usually served commercially.

Take the recent educational stuff for kids during the pandemic. That was a genuine public service that a commercial broadcaster would never have bothered with because it wouldn't interest advertisers.

I am in the same boat tbh - I barely watch anything on the BBC, it's not for me. But I feel it is a net good thing for the country. Just like benefits payments, which I pay for out of my taxes but don't use myself. That's how I see it anyway.
I see it as a tax as there seems to be no choice if you want a tv in the eyes of the government. I’ve always supported the BBC as they make some amazing quality programs. They are just failing in recent times to offer much that I am interested in. I did hear about the educational programs they did for kids but fortunately the school my child go to provided enough content over the months of homeschooling so we didn’t need it.

My gripe is the cost increases each year, not by much I agree, but it is going up and I don’t really see why we are getting for that money. I also despise their news coverage and the apologies they’ve had to issue in recent months for their less than impartial reporting speaks volumes. It’s not the standard it once was. I do think you should be able to opt out.
That's really short sighted. The license fee rises a whopping £1.50 on 01.04.2021.
Is that £1.50 per week: NO. Is that £1.50 per month: NO. That's £1.50 for the YEAR.
Or £0.125 per month.
As a comparison, commercial operator Netflix raised their prices £2 per MONTH or £24 for the year.

This thing about repeats is silly too. Sure scheduled TV has repeats, but any simple check of iPlayer content available tells you an absolute ton of streaming options are available there, that can be watched whenever people want. Stats clearly show that linear live TV viewing is decreasing, so them focusing on their on-demand content and offering it for longer there (subject to available rights) is much appreciated by most. The same thing for radio: on-demand and podcasts are booming, over live, and they offer a lot of content areas there as well.

There are also soft power things like World Service, that help those in many countries get consistent unbiased news, that they often simply can't at the moment. This has been one part of fostering many nations own news services to grow and in a small way help democracy flourish over the last 70 or so years. Unfortunately, that battle continues to this day.

Finally, the BBC has also often been instrumental in pushing technical improvements in broadcasting. They're also one of the few permanent European Broadcasting Union members, whose work involves improvements to various broadcasting standards, both technically, and beyond.
A difference of opinion doesn’t necessarily mean the opposing view is ‘short sighted’. I simply don’t feel we are getting the value for money we once did and if I am watching very little, if any of their content, I don’t see why I should pay for it by default. It would be like asking us to pay £50 council tax a year for the one or two visits to London we may make a year. If you’re not using it, it seems unfair to pay a tax for it IMO.

Netflix was an example I detailed extensively in the BBC survey I filled out. I think it’s now £10 per month for the option I have. I would pay £25-30 for the content I watch in all honesty. I don’t mind it if I’m watching it and Netflix continuously update their service with new and interesting programs. I’m not getting the same level of satisfaction from the BBC. If this were to change, I’d happily pay the license fee but as it stands I may not be doing so after this year if it continues the way it is.
 
If you were a resident in Scotland you’d have learned a few years back that the BBC is not a respectable trustworthy network. I gave a legitimate explanation into this behaviour and for some reason MacRumors deleted my post 🤔

At least one of my posts on this thread have been deleted by the moderators too. They claimed they were "political". 🤣
 
If you were a resident in Scotland you’d have learned a few years back that the BBC is not a respectable trustworthy network. I gave a legitimate explanation into this behaviour and for some reason MacRumors deleted my post 🤔

in short 120,000 people in this country dead from COVID and nobody at the BBC questions BoJo on it despite the fact similar island nations are nothing like near this figure, closest is Japan who have double the population only have 5000 deaths. Again, BBC asking not a single Tory how they failed to such a degree.

There probably is a lot of issues with the news, as in any news organisation. But frankly, each side think they are being short changed on BBC News so I figure they are doing OK then.

It's only ever complained about when it doesn't have the content you think it should to fit your world view. It doesn't mean it's bad for news, it just means maybe it's not for you.

Also: that reasoning given is a bit... meh. I've heard plenty of BBC presenters and journalists question politicians on why our rates are awful compared to other nations, particularly New Zealand, and mentioned that we are an island nation. It's a tired out anti-BBC reason by this point. If you don't watch the BBC then of course you won't see them ask those questions. If you do watch it then... why, since you clearly don't want to. Caught out.
 
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