BBC Three looks into 'evangelical frenzy' over Apple

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  1. BillyBobBongo macrumors 68020

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    Spotted this on the BBC website. It's a short clip of some event at the Apple Store in Covent Garden. Plenty of 'British Stiff Upper Lip' to seen...and the reporters final words are just classic.

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  2. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    My douche-o-meter is off the charts! Why do people get so worked up? It really is like an evangelical meeting.
     
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    The best advert for buying online I have ever seen.
     
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    When i was younger i used to work in face to face sales selling credit cards etc in supermarkets and shopping centres. The way the Apple Store employees are behaving reminds me very much of how it was like going into the offices every morning before work. Happy happy joy joy! No negative feelings! Smile and positive body language. PMA=positive mental attitude! Work your territory etc. When we left we were ready to pull trains carriages by our ears ha!

    This kind of thing works in America but over here most british people find this kind of thing cringe worthy beyond belief :p
     
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    Reminds me of the Bullring Apple Store when I turned up for the iPhone 3G launch. The 30 or so staff on duty were trying to whip it up into a frenzy of excitement but there were only 15 of us queuing up outside so it was a bit embarrassing. :D

    iPhone 3G launch.jpg
     
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    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8J2 Safari/6533.18.5)

    I've got to give this a watch when I get home. :)
     
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    It would be embarrassing to be there for any reason. Actually, I'll forgive the staff, who were probably told to act really high. It's either they act hyper, or they're not showing enough spirit and are fired.

    The customers who lined up though.......it's like being caught at the opening day of an In-and-Out, trying to get one of the first burgers to roll off the assembly line.
     
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    The staff look like complete tits, but yeah, they have to so :/
     
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    How come no one else can achieve this level of brand loyalty?

    Except Apple doesn't really sell any bad products. Most of what Apple produces have been best-in-class for years, and continue to be. It would be an understatement to say that consumers find them highly desirable. You can't get to this level of success by selling sub-standard, derivative, uninspired junk. Apple has consistently offered the best in tech - always unique and fresh in some way.

    This loyal fan base has to be *earned.* They've done exactly that. And of course, the Dells, Acers, and the rest of the industry also-rans have taken notes. Some have taken very detailed notes. Just ask eric Schmidt.

    Why do YOU buy Apple products, RP? After all, you're getting ripped off by Apple and their Apple Tax, and are probably counted among the "faithful" since you not only own Apple gear, but you're also a member of an Apple fansite.
     
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    I know lots of people that are tied to brand loyalty. People who will only buy Sony TVs, a certain brand of car, a make of camera, only buy a PS3 or Xbox etc. Buy a particular brand of milk, only buy certain clothes labels. Theres lots and lots of examples of strong brand loyalty in the world
     
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    I want an Apple Store "High-Five"... :mad:

    Brand loyalty is everywhere - I remember seeing people camp out the night before, tents needed as it was late fall and cold and rainy, for a $599 PS3 console... :eek:
     
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    Agreed! I remember back when I was a PC person and saw the iPod come out, or the iMacs in the stores. I wondered why Windows machines never looked as good as the Macs or had as nice of OS. I always assumed Macs were garbage though since thats what everyone always said.

    It wasn't until I used one in a photography class (and learned how to right click ;P) that I realized they were lightyears ahead usability wise. They were rock solid.

    It wasn't until years later that I finally made the switch and haven't looked back.

    I appreciate the look and functionality of Apple products, they are consistently best in their class to most people (this obviously depends on your uses), and any time friends see my iPad or iPhone or my Macbook Air they are amazed and become "Mac curious".

    Yet reading Macrumors you would think its a crime to like Apple since as soon as you say anything good about them or confess to owning one you are suddenly a "fan boy" or you are "drinking the apple koolaid" or as one poster above mentioned "willing to by apple dog **** :rolleyes: ". People need to grow up and realize a computer is a tool and for many people, myself included, Apple produces the best one.

    On a side note though what were all the people excited about? I missed that part....
     
  15. ehoui macrumors regular

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    Give the people what they want and they will eat it up... in a manner of speaking...;)

    So if a company could sell dog crap to people, just imagine if they could sell really great products... oh right, they do.
     
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    Yes, but there's that whole iPad 2 Backlight Bleeding that Apple's been "feeding" us... :eek:
     
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    It was filmed at the opening of the Covent Garden Apple Store.

    At least everyone got a free T-shirt once they had managed to get past the nutters in the blue shirts. :D
     
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    I got into Apple after the rather clever and posh guy on tv illustrated his adulation for the brand. If it's good for him, it'll be good for me, yes?
     
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    MobileMe sucks compared to similar services.
    The current iPhoto has been the worst rendition ever, I think Google Picasa is somewhat superior now in the fact that it does exactly the same but without the slowness and the silly bugs.
    Dare I even mention the iPhone antenna. True, it was blown out of proportion, but I don't get as much signal as I did with my old £30 Skypephone on my iPhone. The issue exists.
    2011 alarm bugs, daylight saving calendar bugs, iTunes bloatedness, the list continues.

    Apple do sell bad products. But also some damn good ones as well. Just like every other company.
     
  20. *LTD*, May 17, 2011
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    Uh . . . where's the rest of your list? Because you've barely shown anything there. You can leave off iPhoto. Nothing currently compares to the iLife Suite. MS is still smarting over it. I'm sure mentioning the iPhone was a mistake . . . because it would be insane to include. The issues never existed, and it was another runaway hit. As for the rest of your list, it looks like you couldn't think of anything else (don't worry, I doubt anyone else could have, either), so you just rolled over and mentioned a couple of bugs.

    Some perspective would help when we make lists like this.

    Microsoft has outspent Apple roughly 8-1 in R&D over the last decade. Yes, 8 to 1.

    And in that time - roughly 10 years - Apple has produced Mac OS X, Mac OS X Server, lots of groundbreaking Mac models (multiple iMac versions, the iBooks, MacBooks, MacBook Pros, MacBook Air, Power Macs, etc.), iPod, popularized Podcasting, iTunes, iTunes Store, iPhone, iOS, Apple TV, the App Store, Mac App Store, and, of course their current game-changer: the iPad (and now an even bigger hit, the iPad 2.)

    Microsoft, on the other hand, for 8x the money, has come up with: another back-asswards Mac OS X clone - a Windows rehash that they're trying to shoehorn onto tablets with varying degrees of failure, some bloated Office retreads, the Zune, Kin, Bing, and Windows Phone 2007. If it wasn’t for the Sony-inspired Xbox (Red Ring of Death included) and a Nintendo-inspired Xbox controller, Microsoft would have nothing but a string of failures to show for roughly 80 billion dollars. The ratio of R&D to revenue for both companies couldn’t be more telling. Of course, they put a lot of R&D into their Enterprise software. Which doesn't function any better today than it has years ago. We're still on XPee at work. So, of course it's all useless to us. It's hard to get excited about Exchange and Outlook, and hard to actually enjoy using them. Which no one really does.

    That's right. $80 billion for a PlayStation clone, an accessory to make it work like a Wii, an also-ran search engine, and what's left of Nokia.

    Here's the take-away from all this: Any other company would love, LOVE to boast your list of Apple's "failures." They'd be on iCloud nine.

    I'll give you MobileMe. It's good, actually. It does the job of syncing everything on my iPhone with all my other Apple gear. But it could be so much more. And apparently, it will be.
     
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    Some of those issues are pretty bad and sad they even made it to the light of day yet people like you defended apple saying Oh it is ok.

    If you want more you have light leak issues.
    Over heating issue on the Macbooks. Still huge over heating issues.
    Battery issues that Apple denied denied denied up until they got caught.

    Logic board issues left and right on macbooks in the past that again they denied was an issue.
    Piss poor water sensors that people defended Apple on.
    Bad hard drives that were known to fail that again apple claimed oh nothing is wrong (learned that one when my brother failed took it in to get fix and learned it was a known issue from the Apple employee got lucky it was at the very end of Apple care)

    Kicker is people like you will always defend Apple. You live in the RDF. Oh and calling OSX server ground breaking is laughable by the way.
     
  22. *LTD*, May 17, 2011
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    I don't need to defend Apple when the facts do it all by themselves. Apple is # 1 in customer satisfaction for nearly all their product lines year after year.

    You seem to think I'm making all this up. But it's all there for you. I posted a whole list of links to this effect a while back and I re-post and update them now and then. They go all the way back to 2005 or so.

    Apple has their share of issues, but others have far, far more. That's the point. And this is the way it has been *consistently*, which is the reason Apple has such a stellar track record and has garnered a reputation in the industry that reflects the same.

    Why do YOU buy such bad products, RP? Why did you pay the Apple Tax? Why do you buy bug-ridden Apple gear just to get ripped off?
     
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    I know about your long list of links. If I remember right only 3 or 4 of them are worth anything. The rest of them either link back to each other or are from Apple fan sites. It looks impressive but really a long list of meaningless links.

    If you go back and look what I have said before Apple laptops spec for spec are competitively price. Key words is "spec for spec" as soon as you start having to buy more than you really need to get the one or 2 specs you want the rest is Apple Tax.

    I also have said before I am not a fan of the iPhone. Never have been never will be. It is not for me. It is way to much of an iPod touch with a phone added in. iPod touch is a great media player and yeah none of the others I have used come close to it. I have not played with a Zune so I can not compare it to that nor can you LTD. The most you have played with it is less than me at that was at a best buy.

    But at the same token unlike you I do not live in the RDF and I do not buy Apple lies which they have been caught in more than once.

    lastly then #1 in customer satisfactions sorry I have learned a long time ago to rate that part down because key point is article likes these and people like you that show that Apple fans truly believe Apple can do no wrong and will rate them as such.

    You ask for a list of problems and guess what I provided them for you. Instead all you could do is go on insulting.

    As for personal Apple products I have an iPod and a Macbook. My last computer I bought was a dell i7 powered laptop for school because I am doing CS and I am doing a lot of school work in windows environment and using MS tools. Right tool for the job. A macbook pro would of costed me around 2200+ for the same specs compared to the 1400 I paid for my dell. Apple tax was not worth the 800 extra for very little if any gain for what I needed and I still would of been running needing to run windows most of the time.

    My parents I told to get a Mac and for what they needed the 27in iMac gave them everything they needed and not much they did not need.
     
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    The entire show is on iPlayer now if you're in the uk

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011fjbp

    Was a reasonably interesting watch. Funny to see peoples reactions to MS and Nokia, they both have a serious image problem for younger consumers it would seem.
     
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    I wonder if *LTD* is a younger consumer?
     

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