BBC World News HD mock up #Version 2

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  1. iSamurai macrumors 65816

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    This after a few hours...

    This is a mock-up screen shot of what the next BBC World News *should* look like.

    The new layout will be optimised for HD 16:9 viewing. The normal SDTV 14:9 compromise resolution will display as much information as possible, but cropping out the "HD" logo and the time.

    BBC World News could be broadcast in HD 16:9. It is currently being broadcast in 14:9 format.

    Oh and that globe at the bottom right hand corner is spinning slowly.


    I had to resize it to 720p, because 1080p would be pointless to upload -- although my working size is 1080p.

    So what do you think?
     

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  2. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    I think It's OK, but it's not blowing my mind.

    What made you pick BBC World News of all things to do a mock-up TV HD channel screen cap? :confused:
     
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    Are you from the US? because US news are overflowing with graphics, transitions, colours and text. So I cut down on the content (have you seen EuroNews -- they're slightly too simple IMO).

    Yeah I know it's not mind-blowing, but most European news are like that. I'll work on the lower third. :)

    Well, I get a few international news channels here, and BBC's just one of them I watch regularly. I made a CNNi mock-up a while ago so I chose BBC this time. And I also think that the current BBC graphics still looks about the same after the £550k revamp (apart from the spinning globe).
     
  5. Saladinos macrumors 68000

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    It looks alright, but it does have an American feel to it. Some elements are exempt from the colour scheme, and the impact font looks too ABC or Fox.
     
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    I think the HD logo should be smaller, as at the moment it's more obtrusive than the BBC logo. Perhaps they could both be combined into a space the size of the BBC logo in the far left, which would give you some space between that and "Breaking news".

    I also think the type "Test drive..." could also be smaller, to give it a bit of breathing space in the banner (and the weather could do with the same). The scrolling news could be smaller overall as well. I'd lose the red outline to the banner as well.

    And edesignuk is from the UK, surprisingly. ;)
     
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    yeah, I thought the impact style font didn't fit. It never appears in European news... I'll make a redo later moving the Breaking News above the lower-third slab and unify the font styles... Currently it has many different Helvetica Neue styles.

    I've never seen ABC nor Fox before in my whole life -- never been to the US before lol

    anyway thanks for the input ^_^
     
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    Try watching Taiwanese TV News.. even worse than in the U.S (although they're usually referring to the quality of the reporting) and they always seem to complement how 'clean' the British TV is!

    Believe me these images are a 'clean' day! .. notice the iPhone factory lady! :D

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    LOL I'm also from Taiwan (but I don't live there any more). The news there bombards you with text... last time during the election they squeezed in as much text as possible.

    So ya, I'm trying to simplify as much as possible, but giving the same amount of information as possible.
     
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    Here's version 2:

    Now it looks even simpler... but I just dunno where to put the "Breaking News".

    Sky News is probably the only European news channel that over uses the "Breaking News" banner... other channels don't even use it, although BBC flashes it for a few seconds :p

    I've also added the 14:9 ratio safe area viewable to SDTV receivers (Note BBC does not broadcast in 4:3). So the only thing HDTV viewers will see are the time and the HD logo.

    Image courtesy Editor B of Flickr.

    Updated (2nd time) below.
     

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  12. Switz213 macrumors 6502

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    Nice, but the bottom ticker is waayyyy to thick.
     
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    you reckon? I'll fix that :) the current BBC and even CNNi's tickers are quite thick as well.
     
  14. Switz213 macrumors 6502

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    yeah but not that thick. I'd say just a little bit over the size of the text, not too thin, but not too thick.
     
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    Agreed with others. The ticker is too thick, and should be plain black. There's just a little 'too' much going on at the moment.

    Also, lose the 'HD' logo on the left hand side - it's about as useless as the 'Flat TV' logo on my flat TV. Yes, I know it's a Flat TV, I don't need a goddam logo telling me.
     
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    Good point. I've also shrunk the ticker. I hope you guys enjoyed the ticker's news. :) updated version just above.
     
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    For what it is, it works great. Most, if not all, American news stations have far too many graphics that do nothing but hinder readability.

    This type of design is one that should be done well, but quietly. It's there, but we hardly notice it because it's working so well.
     
  18. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040

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    I like it. Clean, clear and simple and doesn't suffer from the "Bloomberg Ticker Explosion Effect" (too many tickers...).

    Just out of interest will this be really going to air because it would be a shame if it doesn't?
     
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    Changing the typeface to Gill Sans will give it that quintessential "English" vibe.
     
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    The BBC have their own corporate guidelines. They used to use Gill Sans, then they switched to Helvetica. Now they're back to Gill.

    Your graphics look nice and clean. What would they be like in Gill?

    You wouldn't see the red BBC logo by the way.

    BBC Sport uses a mix of Flama Condensed and Helvetica Condensed if you wanted to try sports results captions.
     
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    I guess so, if someone from BBC is reading this and pondered, hmm, if I spend £400k for a redesign and a 17 year old student could do this just as good... what was I thinking...

    I thought about it too, but Gill Sans reminds me of maths tests -- my maths teacher is in love with this font. I try avoid it as I can. I chose Helvetica Neue because 1) it has more variants and 2) it's modern and clean. If I'm correct, CNN International also uses it.

    Nothing really, just building up all the Photoshopped work, because one day I might need them, either for work, portfolio, or whatever else (although I'll probably be studying medicine lol) -- I made BBC/CNN news mockup last year and it turned out that I used it for one of my school's big function/events. See below in attachments. But by then I was making almost identical to the real version. Note that the BBC mock up was the one prior to the recent update.

    I know -- but I was just trying it out in red there -- I should put the logo in white. Thanks for the tip. And I'll be making another few mock ups once I find time (including some messed up Taiwanese news).



    Below are a few mock ups I made earlier as explained above, the other CNNi one I quickly made it for a school video -- I changed the CNN logo to a fictious news channel for that video so people wouldn't complain.
     

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  23. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040

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    I do broadcast design for weather graphics, and I really do think you've done a very nice job on the layouts. Two things I would suggestion to make it more pro it to make sure the key info, bugs and banners are int action and title safe. Also work on the fonts Smashing Magazine has some very nice and free fonts, personally Delicious, MG Moderna and Pigianiq are my new favorites.

    The big issue with any broadcast is never to do with the designer(s) or a great design, I have seem many great designer butchered once the management and board get a hold of it.

    The latest design I have developed for a client was a clean surf report with some very nice animated icons, once the board (no pun intended) got a hold of the design all icons and the surf background was removed now it's all text with not one image. (boring)
     
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    Thanks for the tip man, appreciated it.

    I think it is already title safe -- with a little exception perhaps. Some people said that the bottom ticker is too thick, but some old TV screens underscan so it might be grazing a little on the text :p

    Generally, HDTV signals doesn't get underscanned and the TV should be smart enough not to crop anything out, and since BBC World News broadcasts in 14:9 (the rest of BBC is 16:9) to SDTVs, I don't think the top and bottom will have any problems. The sides I'm a little concerned (but hey, it's not going on TV any time soon).

    I get my fonts everywhere, so finding a particular font is not that difficult (including paid fonts). But I usually prefer modern fonts (e.g. Helvetica Neue), humanists (e.g. Myriad Pro) and some good looking Serif fonts for text (e.g. Georgia).

    LOL, the story's quite true. If it's too nice they take the stuff and sack you. This is probably why BBC wanted this company (who does brand image or whatever) to do it, and they'll probably never go back to them again. I believe that they won't employ these people, but more like a once-off thing.
     
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    iSamurai, I found this thread off google and really like your work! I was wondering if your up for any graphics jobs like this? If so- email me @ ryant@channel6newsonline.com
     

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