This was never a pocket vs non pocket comparison. It was phone vs SKILLS (another phone) all day!
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Other Be sincerely! Do you really record like a PRO, or just want to have the camera features?
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As the following images will illustrate, I am anything but a professional photographer, but I do like to take photos.
So, we're just back from the beautiful island of Mull - off the west coast of Scotland, needless to say, many photos were taken while there.
Here are 2 such photos, one from my trusty old Panasonic G1, admittedly that's getting on a bit, but it's still a good camera. The other is from my iPhone X, which I took because the Panasonic doesn't have GPS tagging.
So here they are, untouched apart from cropping to get them as close as possible to each other. I ask you, as a normal person, not a professional, just a bit of a shutterbug, would you be disappointed with either of these?
Oh, the EXIF data has been stripped from them both, for obvious reasons, but I'm sure you'll spot which is which.
Photo 1
Photo 2
So, we're just back from the beautiful island of Mull - off the west coast of Scotland, needless to say, many photos were taken while there.
Here are 2 such photos, one from my trusty old Panasonic G1, admittedly that's getting on a bit, but it's still a good camera. The other is from my iPhone X, which I took because the Panasonic doesn't have GPS tagging.
So here they are, untouched apart from cropping to get them as close as possible to each other. I ask you, as a normal person, not a professional, just a bit of a shutterbug, would you be disappointed with either of these?
Oh, the EXIF data has been stripped from them both, for obvious reasons, but I'm sure you'll spot which is which.
Photo 1
Photo 2
Please, what would you preffer right in this moment: to have the iphone 11 pro, or to have the xs mas + the SKILLS like a PRO? Be honest!
"I would like to if I wanted to" - Michael Scott
In all seriousness, I take a lot of pictures but none of them are really professional. My job involves taking a lot of pictures and I use my phone for that, so I'll enjoy a better camera in that regard. I have always been interested in photography so who knows, maybe I'll get inspired by the excellent quality of the iPhone 11 Pro to finally pursue that.
In all seriousness, I take a lot of pictures but none of them are really professional. My job involves taking a lot of pictures and I use my phone for that, so I'll enjoy a better camera in that regard. I have always been interested in photography so who knows, maybe I'll get inspired by the excellent quality of the iPhone 11 Pro to finally pursue that.
'The skills like a pro', that's the really important bit. It can take many years of study and practice to get the best from any camera and become a "Pro" - something your average punter will never do.
So in that case, give me the iPhone. And as has already been stated there's a good old rule in photography - the best camera, is the one you have with you.
I don't always carry my big ass mirrorless camera and all of its lenses filters and other attachments, but I do always have my iPhone. Case closed.
Most photographers would agree that the camera you have with you at the time is the best camera for taking the photos you want. If you plan on lugging a DSLR and other gear around with you all the time, that’s awesome. I like having a reasonably good camera in my pocket for when I need it.
The premise of your original post is actually kind of ridiculous. You’re essentially comparing a good photographer with a slightly lesser camera to your average joe with a slightly better camera. The outcome is obvious: a good photographer can capture amazing images with a potato.
Are you just trying to make yourself feel better about the LG phone you purchased?
The premise of your original post is actually kind of ridiculous. You’re essentially comparing a good photographer with a slightly lesser camera to your average joe with a slightly better camera. The outcome is obvious: a good photographer can capture amazing images with a potato.
Are you just trying to make yourself feel better about the LG phone you purchased?
You may have a dead battery on your iphone, broken display and ask your friend to give you his android.
You don't have your iphone now, but you have your SKILLS.
I never wanted to be phone vs DSLR.
[doublepost=1568817813][/doublepost]Feel free to sugest me changing the title of this thread. I want the discutions to be phone+features vs phone+ skils. And also focused on video recording, not photos.
I have a 12 year old Nikon DSLR that I haven’t used in a long time because of the quality of my iPhone camera that’s always with me. I bought a really nice mirrorless camera that I wound up returning because carrying a camera that small and light was still difficult, and I often missed shots. With the advances in smartphone cameras and computational photography, I’m pretty much done with lugging a camera and lenses around. I love the pics and high quality video that I get with the tiny camera that’s always with me. I’m no pro, but I love the images that I can capture in an instant, and the new camera features are worth it to me.
In my 11 or 12 years of iPhone ownership, I have never had a dead battery - I top up whenever I can, and if I'm going to be away from a power source for an extended period, I take some of my dozens of battery packs (yeah, I really do have that many, along with a couple of 48W solar chargers).
Neither have I had a broken screen, not even the time I dropped my iPhone 3G over 30 feet onto concrete. It came out of that surprisingly well. But that was a one-off, never likely to happen again.
As for Android, apart from myself, I don't know anyone who owns an Android phonem so that's unlikely to happen.
Why can't you have both? Skills AND the 11Pro - that's the answer.
This was never a pocket vs non pocket comparison - That is what I'm after.
Because these moments are once in a lifitime, you should really use more advanced equipment than a phone. Professional video camera. - I've replyed to him in this context: (if users are talking about what i'm not after, does this mean i could't participate?)
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I have kids, and over the years my pictures of them have been taken more and more with iPhones than other cameras - in fact, I sold my DSLR several years ago because I found I just wasn't using it. For me, every camera upgrade is worthwhile, in that it means I'll have higher quality photos to work with (to print, to edit, to share, etc) and since organic photo ops are literally once-in-a-lifetime events, I want as good a camera as possible. I'm really excited to upgrade my iPhone X to the iPhone 11 Pro Max, mainly for the cameras (and also the insanely upgraded battery) ...
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Basically this. My wife was a big supporter of the SE.....until we had our baby. Then, one night she told me to pick up the XS for her because she realized the photos were not as good as the ones I took (especially with low light and all). Also with taking 4K 60FPS videos, all of the baby’s video are taken in that format, because well by the time she is old enough even 4K will be old tech. In the last few month her iCloud backup basically grew by 100GB. These are the moment you get once in a life time.
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Here's the thing, for me pictures are about memories and if the quality isn't perfect that doesn't matter. My parents have thousands of developed pictures that are grainy and of questionable quality, yet the memories are preserved. I'm pretty sure most consumers will be similar to me in this regard.
Heres one taken on an iPhone 5, it doesn’t look amazing but again that doesn’t matter to me.
Heres one taken on an iPhone 5, it doesn’t look amazing but again that doesn’t matter to me.
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Amen brother (or sister) it’s the same for me, photos - actual photos, not digital, going way, way back. Some are of the sepia tone, low quality one would expect of very early photography. But it doesn’t matter.
Even with the ancient photos and the more recent of course, I can see members of my family whom I’ve never met, but I have faces to put to the stories.
You don’t need ultra high resolution, HDR. Ai enhanced, depth mapped photos to have an emotional connection to an image. You just need the image.
I don’t object to using good quality equipment, which is why I use my Panny G1 still and I’ll likely upgrade it soon. But for me, it really is what I mentioned earlier. The best camera, is the one you have with you, it’s as simple as that.
My wee pooch will never be a puppy again, but thanks to my trusty iPhone 4....
Best quality ever? Nope. Best quality the iPhone could achieve? Nope.
But a quick spur of the moment snap and I can see her when she was less of a pain in the butt
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We don't! Just look at those video presentations. No matter what phone. Apple, Samsung Huawei etc. It involves designers, psychologists, software and many more resources, even helicopters
. Also individual pros with less equipment are having stunning videos. It's the skills, I'm convinced.Does it really matter? The best camera you have, is the one that you have on you. Smart phones are very capable of taking amazing photos today, but I don’t necessarily think they need to be compared to a DSLR either.
This is so true. Before we had our daughter we both lugged around our DSLRs. Now that we travel long and short distance with a five year old and all her gear....having the best camera in our back pocket is just the best option.
Given those two, very specific choices, I'd take the Xs Max + skills in a second, over the iPhone 11 Pro Max.
That said, I know a thing or two about composition and photography in general, so I'm not at all worried that I'll be able to take advantage of the new phone's improved cameras, right out of the gate. Or box, I guess. I've studied photography in the past, have shot several weddings (as an amateur, admittedly, but I was paid for them) and have some great pictures of my kids taken over the years. I can't wait to use the new iPhone!! Just got a text from my carrier that my reservation is confirmed and my phone is waiting for me for pickup tomorrow, in fact. Yay!
Way too abstract and generalized statement.
Know how to shoot?
Have the time?
Hardware and software?
It seems you are leaning more towards taking video and being a good EDITOR of videos, rather than being a good Cinematographer.
"Making better movies" versus "Shooting better video" are two totally different subjects.