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iPhone X Before I get the iPhone 12 which is around the corner, help please

Libertas

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For a few years now and over two phones, my current X and the 7 or 6 before that, forget now what it was, my battery performance is NOT right.

I have twice gone into Apple store and done a complete restore (forgot the terms, wipe the phone clean, start over) but each time I went into my Apple account and loaded the apps from my account and each time I got the same battery performance.

When I get a new 12, what do I have to do to have a phone that CANT have "brought over" problems from the OS or the apps? Otherwise I will continue with this craziness.

For the sake of expedience, just take my word for it that the battery performance is off, please. I remember when it happened, before this phone and after an update. I even got a new battery at Apple for this 26 month old iPhone X. But it happened BEFORE I bought this phone and it carried over I guess.

Help and thanks.
 

Libertas

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When you get the new phone, set up as new. Don’t restore from a backup.
Would setting up as new mean I would sign in to my apple account on the phone to see my apps and add them as I did the other times, add or dont add etc?

I have done this before, the only thing I didnt do is test after each added. That would be quite the ordeal. But thanks for responding.
 
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Libertas

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And then add one app at a time and check battery drain. If that app is ok then install the next one etc
Yeah, that would be a tough one. I have 5 pages of apps. I would have to test each one but it would be difficult to know the results, really. But I know there is no other way, at that point the problem MUST be an app, I assume.

Thanks
 
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Would setting up as new mean I would sign in to my apple account on the phone to see my apps and add them as I did the other times, add or dont add etc?

I have done this before, the only thing I didnt do is test after each added. That would be quite the ordeal. But thanks for responding.
Yes. Setting up as new means selecting which apps you want to install, and not bringing over any previous app user data that might have been a factor in your bad battery use.

Installing one app at a time is an excellent way in tracking down the possible app culprit.
 
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cynics

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Taking your word that battery performance is off makes this a tricky question.

Problems can't be carried over, at least not in the traditional sense. When restoring (from iCloud) you are using a fresh version of iOS with fresh fully updated version of your apps. Your settings and data is then put into those apps.

What will carry over is an app that is a battery hog that you use a lot and then continue to use a lot. This is more often the case because it sounds like you restored the device and even upgraded and you have A LOT of apps.

Personally I would delete every app you don't use, but thats up to you and shouldn't really be required.

Physics dictate that the energy from the battery was used for something. It can't just disappear. However if the problem is consistent like your issue seems to be then its generally easy to pin point. This might be a bit easier then loading one app at a time too.

Goto settings > battery > Last 10 days tab (make sure you don't use 24 hour view first because its not a large enough sample size for an on going problem and will send you on a wild goose chase).

Below that is a list of apps with % next to them. They add up to 100%. So that is 100% of all the battery consumption your iPhone used for 10 days.

The first few things on the list is where vast majority of the battery is going.

For example my top 4 apps use 49% of my battery. Fortunately for me I don't have a battery issue because those apps are Safari, Amazon, Phone and Messages. If I did have an issue and as painful as this sounds I would consider using Amazon.app less frequently.

Hope this helps a bit.
 
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tt061282

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As previously stated in this thread restoring from iCloud backup can sometimes be a battery drainer. I remember back when I bought the iPhone 5c I had so many issues with that phone and one of the things that I was told the was about restoring from a backup. The 5c is another issue entirely that I ended up having to go thru Apple executive offices for, but at that time was when I found out about restoring from iCloud vs setting up as new. It’s the truth too. Setting up as new in a lot of cases can fix your battery issues. Some rogue app could be causing it and you bring it over in the backup so the problem persists.

I know it’s a pain to setup as new every time, but it truly does help especially if you’re having battery drain issues.
 
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Libertas

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Yeah, that would be a tough one. I have 5 pages of apps. I would have to test each one but it would be difficult to know the results, really. But I know there is no other way, at that point the problem MUST be an app, I assume.

Thanks
Taking your word that battery performance is off makes this a tricky question.

Problems can't be carried over, at least not in the traditional sense. When restoring (from iCloud) you are using a fresh version of iOS with fresh fully updated version of your apps. Your settings and data is then put into those apps.

What will carry over is an app that is a battery hog that you use a lot and then continue to use a lot. This is more often the case because it sounds like you restored the device and even upgraded and you have A LOT of apps.

Personally I would delete every app you don't use, but thats up to you and shouldn't really be required.

Physics dictate that the energy from the battery was used for something. It can't just disappear. However if the problem is consistent like your issue seems to be then its generally easy to pin point. This might be a bit easier then loading one app at a time too.

Goto settings > battery > Last 10 days tab (make sure you don't use 24 hour view first because its not a large enough sample size for an on going problem and will send you on a wild goose chase).

Below that is a list of apps with % next to them. They add up to 100%. So that is 100% of all the battery consumption your iPhone used for 10 days.

The first few things on the list is where vast majority of the battery is going.

For example my top 4 apps use 49% of my battery. Fortunately for me I don't have a battery issue because those apps are Safari, Amazon, Phone and Messages. If I did have an issue and as painful as this sounds I would consider using Amazon.app less frequently.

Hope this helps a bit.
Thanks...

Apple took away the ability to quickly see what % you used in a given time when they changed the battery section.

Ten days apps are

Phone 15%
Youtube 7%
Chrome 7%
WSOP (poker game) 7%
Home and Lock 6%
Stitcher (podcasts) 6%
Sirius XM 6%
Messages 6%


and on and on...For instance, my relatively new battery I will charge to 100% leave it on charger after it gets to 100% and use it for 5 minutes and it is at 99% or less. My wife's XR stays at 100% for 3 times that amount of time and her phone battery overall lasts much longer than mine.

I know what you are gonna say, those apps eat batteries. Yes, they do...When I do my comparison it is not using the phone or very little and then compare to the XR, and while I know the XR has a slightly longer lasting battery than the X, the difference is dramatic.
 
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Libertas

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As previously stated in this thread restoring from iCloud backup can sometimes be a battery drainer. I remember back when I bought the iPhone 5c I had so many issues with that phone and one of the things that I was told the was about restoring from a backup. The 5c is another issue entirely that I ended up having to go thru Apple executive offices for, but at that time was when I found out about restoring from iCloud vs setting up as new. It’s the truth too. Setting up as new in a lot of cases can fix your battery issues. Some rogue app could be causing it and you bring it over in the backup so the problem persists.

I know it’s a pain to setup as new every time, but it truly does help especially if you’re having battery drain issues.
We did not restore from backup, but as new, I think. I know I had to add all the apps, they were all gone, I had to resign into everything...that is as new, right? I added the apps by signing into my account, but then added each one.
 
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tt061282

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We did not restore from backup, but as new, I think. I know I had to add all the apps, they were all gone, I had to resign into everything...that is as new, right? I added the apps by signing into my account, but then added each one.

Yeah that is setting up as new. Sorry if you had already stated that I missed it in the thread if so.

Im not too sure where the battery drain could be coming from.
 
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Libertas

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Yeah that is setting up as new. Sorry if you had already stated that I missed it in the thread if so.

Im not too sure where the battery drain could be coming from.
Thanks again. That is the frustrating part, it drains with nothing happening.
 
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