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Did you choose erase and install for Tiger?

This sounds kinda weird because I would expect a reinstall of Tiger to solve your problem. If it's not software, logically it would imply a hardware failure somewhere? :confused:

I don't have the slightest clue for now. However, please install Leopard and let us know if server updates is possible after that. I really hope Leopard is your answer.
 
People, I have now reached new depths of despair with Apple.

I have just switched on to install Leopard and guess what? My I-tunes library has gone.

Did you Erase & Install, or simply upgrade/Archive & Install? Did your user folder get renamed somehow in all of this?
 
Does anyone have checks I can perform to see if the library is hiding somewhere, because I can't find it.

What type of Leopard install did you do? I hope you didn't do an erase and install. The default, however, should have been a basic upgrade.

Did you have your music in the default location before? (Music > iTunes > iTunes Music) Are there still song files in that folder? You can check by navigating that iTunes Music folder.
 
If your music is still there, but not showing up in iTunes, see if this works:

Quit iTunes. In the Music > iTunes folder, see if there is a Previous iTunes Libraries folder. If so, grab one of those files, rename it to iTunes Library, and replace the file of the same name in the iTunes folder.

What might have happened is that when Leopard upgraded your system, it backed up the old file and created a new one. At least I'm hoping that's what happened. The file in question is just a text file that stores your music location, playlists, etc.
 
Thankfully sorted the I-tunes issue myself although the Apple store didn't have a clue!

Installed Leopard and still can't find update server despite being assured by the Genius that this was a sure fire fix.

So two hours of my life I won't see again and £80 out of pocket, but at least my Son's nano now works. Not quite the result I was hoping for and I still have to sort out the update server issue.

This whole experience has been awful.
 
Back up all important Docs/Music/Movies and do a clean install and see if that works.

If your on a Vodafone 3G Data Package then you can't download "large" files from the update server, Vodafone don't like bandwidth abusers, Thats how they see you as their service is for casual browsing. As others have said look into broadband or at the very least dial-up
 
AS explianed above it's not the 3g connection, the fault is in the mac.

It wouldn't work on a fixed broadband connection in the Apple store.

The 3g did let me download a 312mb file, albeit slowly. Just a shame that it wouldn't open...
 
AS explianed above it's not the 3g connection, the fault is in the mac.

It wouldn't work on a fixed broadband connection in the Apple store.

The 3g did let me download a 312mb file, albeit slowly. Just a shame that it wouldn't open...

Did you check the firewall setting to make sure it doesn't block port 8080 ?
 
I don't know if the Genius in store tried to do that. If it's an obvious thing to try, you'd hope so.

Is there an easy way to check?
 
Installed Leopard and still can't find update server despite being assured by the Genius that this was a sure fire fix.

This is what I feared all along.

Did you do archive and install, and erase and install for Leopard?

The former may preserves system settings, and you will be wise to check your firewall as suggested. If you did the latter, firewall should be defaulted to factory, and since you are still not contacting to the server, I fear there may be a hardware fault somewhere.
 
Go to System Preferences > Network > Ethernet > Advanced
In the new window click the Ethernet button, top right.
Set MTU to custom and change the number in the box underneath to 1450

i had the same problem.
 
please respond

nasr1,

A couple of times I have asked you whether or not you went through the whole setup process when you first turned on your second hand mac. As yet I have not seen an answer. This will help us determine why it is still not working.

Also, from whom and how did you purchase the mac?

I regret that you are still having problems, however be aware that it is hard for anyone to help you - Apple or otherwise, if we cannot determine the usage history of the system. The advice the genius has tried to provide you is consistent with the fact that we do not know what may have been done to this system in the past. It is possible that system was modified in a manner beyond the general user interface. I think that the genius was trying to do everything to avoid a complete wipe and install, but we may not have much choice.

So can you do the network and firewall checks (the latter of which I also suggested earlier), and then please confirm what happened the first time you turned on the computer after buying it, as well as confirming how and from where the system was purchased.

Sometimes you will have a problem with second hand gear. Doesn't matter if it is a computer or a car. If a second hand Astra is playing up, its a bit difficult to get it fully running thout having an idea of the running history of the car to be able to pinpoint the problem. On that same note, you don't blame Vauxhall either - who knows what was done to the car before you got it?

What I am trying to say here is don't get too upset with us or apple if this is not going as smoothly as we would all like. We can't expect a new computer experience of it working straight out of the box if the computer isn't new - and it would be unreasonable to do so. Both apple and we will suggest a whole bunch of stuff to try, and it may work it may not.

The best thing we can do now is to try to replicate the new computer experience as closely as possible - and if that means backing up your data and reinstalling, then so be it. But please try everyting you are asked to try first, and provide all the info you are asked to provide before we go down that path.

That really is the best we can do. If it still does not work after a complete wipe and reinstall, we may be looking at a hardware issue. Again, conjecture because we do not know the history of the system before you bought it.
 
The mac came from my own company which cleaned off all data bar the OS. We have a corporate server which it used to talk to and I can be certain that we didn't have hardware issues with it before we got rid when we switched the whole business to PC.

Thinking back to when I first fired it up at home I don't recall installing the OS, something that is re-inforced by the fact that I was a lttle surprised when I found the 10.4.7 discs in a drawer just the other day. I think I would have recalled installing them.

I did let the genius know the history when I went into the store and suggested it might have been trying to find a corporate server. Quite why it hasn't been auto connecting to the update server when it was a company machine is anyone's guess.

I'm afraid i don't know how to check if it's trying to find a corporate server - any advice most welcome. I tried the changes to the ethernet suggested above but it has no effect, but as I'm connecting the internet via Airport i don't think it is relevant anyway? There is no firewall running.
 
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