Edit...since this seems to be a difficult to find accessory I've modified the topic title to be more of a general thread. Sites to get this from are lower in the thread. As of 2:45pm CST 8/1/08 -Apple shows a shipping delay of 6-8 weeks -JR.com shows it as backordered. (best price) -Amazon.com has it in stock (third best price, Amazon raised it) -Buy.com has it in stock (next best price) See links further down in the thread to the item at those sites. Ok...anyone else order this car kit from J&R even though it says preoder? I ordered it from them simply because I can save $30 over the normal $100 price...but I'm wondering why it's a preorder when people on these forums have said they have used this specific model (F8Z183) with the iPhone 3G and that it works. http://www.jr.com/belkin/pe/BKN_F8Z183/ Also I ordered it over the weekend and got charged for it today...they say they only charge when they ship products. So it should be on the way correct? (could anyone experienced with jr.com give some insight?) Yeah I contacted them directly to see what they have to say since my order status doesn't say anything about shipment...and the product still says it's a preorder.