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Benchmarks Confirm Intel's Latest Core i9 Chip Outperforms Apple's M1 Max With Several Caveats
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apples and oranges.
apple has all of the efficient battery life.
intel has all of the games.
tote an intel gaming notebook with an iPad/M1 Air to win.
thats what it will come down to in the near future.
apple has all of the efficient battery life.
intel has all of the games.
tote an intel gaming notebook with an iPad/M1 Air to win.
thats what it will come down to in the near future.
I'd go with water cooling if I was a pc user.
If you were to put the Core i9-12900HK in the MBP's form factor its performance would plummet. As it does already when you run benchmarks unplugged on any Windows laptop, either that or you get battery life measured in minutes. Laptops are all about the thermal envelope they operate at. These cherry-picked benchmarks in any case confirm Apple's unrivaled advantages in the industry.
I wonder how many months of additional testing were spent just tweaking to get to the point where they could eke out a 4% performance increase without melting the CPU
OH, and from what I finally understood today, you’ll only see this performance with Windows 11.
No good to me if the battery I need to power this for a days work comes on wheels.
Good, competition is a good thing and I am glad to see that Intel is getting somewhere ...
I love my M1 MBA and I do not miss x86, and I will choose macOS over Windows any time!
I love my M1 MBA and I do not miss x86, and I will choose macOS over Windows any time!
It’s also not just about battery life but sustained performance as we’ve seen with last years Intel comparisons. Try running multiple intensive programs on that Intel and it locks up immediately.
I wouldn't lose sleep over 500 Geekbench points and far worse battery life in a much heavier laptop. No thanks.
That is not the whole story. It is 4% faster in synthetic benchmarks but it will be a lot, lot faster than the M1 Max in any jobs that is not optimized for Apple's architecture. If you are not in content creation that's most jobs out there.
Welcome to “Intel Benchmarking” with your host, Major Caveat.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if these are CPU-based tests the high-end M1 Pro should have comparable results, right?
I'll never buy any machine, even build a PC, with an Intel CPU again. Especially after they have started wasting silicon to produce mining chips when we have a silicon shortage and climate change problems. They can go to hell and I hope the worst for their execs.
Exactly! I don't know why these things are worthy of write ups. Apple could make a power hungry M chip that would blow Intel out the water. But, that's not their goal here.
Not only is it 4% faster but you also get a great BBQ ? for a laptop
It's both really. The fact is that a brand new Intel chip only just beats the M1 Max for speed. Before Apple released M1, most people would have told you that ARM chips weren't really suitable for general computing.
Good to see Intel keep at it
Folks here seem a bit shortsighted on some of this.
We all should want the envelopes to keep getting pushed by all manufacturers
Folks here seem a bit shortsighted on some of this.
We all should want the envelopes to keep getting pushed by all manufacturers
Actually in Cinebench R23 (which was used to measure the power consumption) the Intel CPU is considerably faster than just 4% (around 16,000 vs 12,000 on the M1 Max).
Also, the 140W quoted by Macrumors is only a brief spike (which isn't surprising since the all-core clock rate that applies in sustained multi-threaded loads is lower than the single core boost clock).
From the PCWorld article:
"We then simultaneously measured the power each drew from the wall while running the CPU-only Cinebench R23 test. Under an all-core load you can see the 12th-gen Core i9 spike up to 140 watts, but it soon drops with power consumption actually below that of the Ryzen 9 and 11th-gen Core i9.
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We can see the purple line dropping first, which means the Core i9-12900HK finished the test first. We can also count the sags and see that the 12th-gen Core i9 rendered 12 scenes in less time than the Ryzen 9, which completed 10 renders."
I think it is. But as others have stated it undeniably shows performance per watt is through the roof on the max. Intel isn’t even close and efficiency will be king as time goes on.
performance wise, i hope intel's consumer grade CPU can beat out a 4x M1 MAX chip. as for the notebook department, it won't be until the rumored 2nm? that intel can truly compete with apple. with that said, you guys need to stop hating on intel's heat and wattage. most of you guys weren't complaining about it before apple silicon became a thing. and when intel finally does beat apple, you guys will talk about how performance and battery life isn't everything. stop it, you.
heat is not a issue in a desktop environment, only ppl complaining about heat are on laptops. my noctua d14 can keep my intel at 5ghz 24/7