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Robert1-1

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Oct 8, 2014
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So I had a second iPhone 6+ on order at AT&T after they cancelled my first one. I've been waiting over 6 weeks. I signed up for alerts on iLiveNow a couple of days ago and was stoked to get a email today at lunch saying my model 6+ SG 128G was in stock right around the corner at the Apple store. I rush over there and the sales person sets me up and transfers my service to the new phone. We open the box, a quick inspection shows that it has a slight bend in it.

I point this out to the sales person who quickly acknowledges it and goes around to show it to some other co-workers and manager. After about 5 minutes she comes back with another one and apologizes. She said her and co-workers were completely floored when they saw this.

So I inspect the new one which looks completely fine. As another observation, there were dozens of display phones there. I checked out at least 3 or 4 closely all of which looked fine.

I have no idea how common this is, but I find it hard to believe that it is as rare as some are trying to make it out to be. Quite frankly, if not for being aware of the issue through all of the experiences posted on this forum, I probably would not have noticed until some later point and would have been like one of the dozen other, "I don't know how my phone bent, I didn't do anthing to bend it" people.

Some other obsevations, the Apple sales person was extremely apologetic and said they have to do a complete right up on the phone and send it back. That was good to here because this raises the awareness of the issue to Apple. In addition, I believe the sales people and manager that saw this will certainly be more sympathetic (at least at that store) when someone comes in with a bent phone.

My own thoughts on this experience are that either the design is overly delicate where the phone can bend event at some point during the manufacturing process (and thus presumably at some later point after purchase as well), or some workers at FoxxConn are intentionally bending some of these. In addition, seeing that this was a newly received phone just today, it is obvious there is no supposed "secret fix".



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Pfft... It's not bent, it simply has a different understanding of "flat" than you do. Only Apple could turn physics on its ear in such a beautiful way.
 
second report of phones bent before anyone even used it.

I wonder how that's even possible. don't they visually check the phone before packaging?

It's one thing for a phone to have a structure defect, another to be already defective before it reaches customers. geez.
 
Well when you're cranking out like 500,000 phones a day I can understand how some defects can slip past inspection. But why so delicate that it can bend before even being used in the first place?

second report of phones bent before anyone even used it.

I wonder how that's even possible. don't they visually check the phone before packaging?

It's one thing for a phone to have a structure defect, another to be already defective before it reaches customers. geez.
 
What's that blurry thing? Could be an iPhone, could be a Galaxy...

Good thing you noticed before you left the store!
 
I actually saw a person with a bent 6+ this afternoon. The bend was very slight at the volume buttons, but the 6+ owner did not seem to notice or care.

I think that outside of these forums, the general iPhone buyer won't be looking for this issue.
 
I don't know what Apples specification is, but the 'bend' may actually pass their inspection.
 
be careful around here

there are people who will accuse you of bending the phone on purpose. they will say that you are a samsung troll.

in all seriousness i hope this gets resolved for you as quickly as possible.
 
be careful around here

there are people who will accuse you of bending the phone on purpose. they will say that you are a samsung troll.

in all seriousness i hope this gets resolved for you as quickly as possible.

???? ......did you read the thread?
 
Very doubtful. Even though this bend was nowhere near as drastic as some of the ones I've seen online, the Apple sales person commented how her and her co-workers couldn't believe how obvious the defect was and that it was that way straight out of the box.

I don't know what Apples specification is, but the 'bend' may actually pass their inspection.
 
Very doubtful. Even though this bend was nowhere near as drastic as some of the ones I've seen online, the Apple sales person commented how her and her co-workers couldn't believe how obvious the defect was and that it was that way straight out of the box.

Stuff happens. I've purchased devices before with easily seen defects before. Shockingly, these were not Apple devices.
 
I wouldn't characterize this as "stuff happens". This was not a random ding, crack, or chip. It was yet another bent phone with the fulcrum near the volume buttons.

Stuff happens. I've purchased devices before with easily seen defects before. Shockingly, these were not Apple devices.
 
I wouldn't characterize this as "stuff happens". This was not a random ding, crack, or chip. It was yet another bent phone with the fulcrum near the volume buttons.

Exactly. However, you have no idea what happened prior to you opening it. How do we know that someone didn't open it up, test to see if it could be bent and then close it and re shrink wrap it?
Or, are you suggesting that the phone just bent on it's own, sitting in a closed box?
 
be careful around here

there are people who will accuse you of bending the phone on purpose. they will say that you are a samsung troll.

Two things I find very constant every time I see this type of this thread. #1, Your Post. There's always someone that will chime in and say exactly that. How interesting that you expect people to believe everything they read on the internet and you're so much in defense of the OP. Hmmm. :rolleyes:
#2, Recent MR Registrations which include yours and the OP's. Not a single person here has accused the OP of anything yet you jumped right in and put it out there in defense when it hasn't even happened. Hmm. The pattern is becoming more obvious here. :p
 
You're not really trying to use that same ole strawman "it happened on its own". Of course not. No one ever suggests that because that is impossible. Some folks are playing semantics games when someone claims they didn't do anything to bend it. That simply means they aren't aware of how it bent. Doesn't that make obvious sense?

I do not know how this phone bent. However, it is not likely someone opened the shrink wrap packaging, bent it intentionally, and put new shrink wrap on. The shrink wrap on the box looked like straight from the factory just like the new one she retrieved. I think you're grasping at straws here. Is it possible? Of course it is. But Occam's razer suggests not.

What I'm suggesting is the most probable scenario is that the phone is either overly delicate to the point where slight bends (as in this case) can occur even during the manufacturing and packaging process, or some rogue individuals at the factory are intentionally bending these. If the latter, I suspect Apple would get to the bottom of that very easily and quickly based on serial numbers of the phones exhibiting these defects.

Exactly. However, you have no idea what happened prior to you opening it. How do we know that someone didn't open it up, test to see if it could be bent and then close it and re shrink wrap it?
Or, are you suggesting that the phone just bent on it's own, sitting in a closed box?
 
You're not really trying to use that same ole strawman "it happened on its own". Of course not. No one ever suggests that because that is impossible. Some folks are playing semantics games when someone claims they didn't do anything to bend it. That simply means they aren't aware of how it bent. Doesn't that make obvious sense?

I do not know how this phone bent. However, it is not likely someone opened the shrink wrap packaging, bent it intentionally, and put new shrink wrap on. The shrink wrap on the box looked like straight from the factory just like the new one she retrieved. I think you're grasping at straws here. Is it possible? Of course it is. But Occam's razer suggests not.

What I'm suggesting is the most probable scenario is that the phone is either overly delicate to the point where slight bends (as in this case) can occur even during the manufacturing and packaging process, or some rogue individuals at the factory are intentionally bending these. If the latter, I suspect Apple would get to the bottom of that very easily and quickly based on serial numbers of the phones exhibiting these defects.

So, three things happened, based on your post:
1.) Someone at the factory bent it and then it got boxed.
2.) Someone at the Apple Store bent it and closed it back up.
3.) It bent on "it's own", through handling or something. And got boxed back up and shipped.

I think at this point, we can all agree that the iPhone 6 Plus can be bent. the question is, to what extent? Are all current phones going to bend over time and usage, or is it simply bad batches of phones that are susceptible?
 
So I had a second iPhone 6+ on order at AT&T after they cancelled my first one. I've been waiting over 6 weeks. I signed up for alerts on iLiveNow a couple of days ago and was stoked to get a email today at lunch saying my model 6+ SG 128G was in stock right around the corner at the Apple store. I rush over there and the sales person sets me up and transfers my service to the new phone. We open the box, a quick inspection shows that it has a slight bend in it.View attachment 511833


What's iLiveNow?
 
I would agree with that. But if someone wanted to take the time, I think it could also be easily determined if it was a design vs manufacturing issue affecting batches by simply tracking the origination of which factory the bent ones are coming from. In addition, it seems Apple is very serious about doing post mortems on these bent phones. If it really was a manufacturing issue, they would most likely have had this resolved by now...yet it is still occurring.

So, three things happened, based on your post:

I think at this point, we can all agree that the iPhone 6 Plus can be bent. the question is, to what extent? Are all current phones going to bend over time and usage, or is it simply bad batches of phones that are susceptible?
 
You should remove/block out that receipt showing the serial number etc, some people can do bad things with that.

(If that's the old phone though, then who cares? :D)
 
It will send you an email alert when the model of iPhone that you are interested in is in stock at an apple store in your area. Really amazing. I got an alert yesterday. Just to confirm I called the local store to check if it really was in stock. Even though I call the local number somehow I got routed to a call center. They told me no it was not there. I though I would drive down just to check for sure, and they did actually have it in stock. Much better than waiting 40 days for AT&T backorder.

What's iLiveNow?


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Yep, that is the returned one. Thanks for noticing and pointing this out.l

You should remove/block out that receipt showing the serial number etc, some people can do bad things with that.

(If that's the old phone though, then who cares? :D)
 
It will send you an email alert when the model of iPhone that you are interested in is in stock at an apple store in your area. Really amazing. I got an alert yesterday. Just to confirm I called the local store to check if it really was in stock. Even though I call the local number somehow I got routed to a call center. They told me no it was not there. I though I would drive down just to check for sure, and they did actually have it in stock. Much better than waiting 40 days for AT&T backorder.

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Ah, interesting. link?
 
Very doubtful. Even though this bend was nowhere near as drastic as some of the ones I've seen online, the Apple sales person commented how her and her co-workers couldn't believe how obvious the defect was and that it was that way straight out of the box.

You can doubt it all you want, but unless we know the pass/fail spec, nobody knows.

Materials used to build anything are not perfect. The tolerances can be tight, but there will always be variation. If you opened the phone and it was bent out of the box, I suspect that it was simply built that way.
 
You can doubt it all you want, but unless we know the pass/fail spec, nobody knows.

Materials used to build anything are not perfect. The tolerances can be tight, but there will always be variation. If you opened the phone and it was bent out of the box, I suspect that it was simply built that way.

Possible. I mean, they are cranking out a ton of these per day. There is the slight possibility that some defective or damaged products might slip through.
 
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