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Apr. US population 2014 was 319 million.
Divide that by 4 as an average to get to households. About 80 million households.
Say 5% of these households buys on
watch , that's 4 million watches.

Right...and I recall that Apple has likely sold less than 4 million watches in some older news articles. Again, it's a nice raw number that Apple sold a few million...sure...but as everyone stated before, Apple will sell a few million of anything they release simply because of the large population(s) and the Apple fans. But as a % of society? 5% is pretty sad. Granted it is year 1. But even still, what % of USA folks own a Mac? 15% on a great day...again, millions of units with nice margins but a minority of traditional desktop and laptop computers. iPhones of course are a much higher %.
 
We'll see how this all goes over the next year. Regardless, some people are determined to poo-poo the watch no matter what, just because they like to feel that they were "right" all along. It's an ego thing.
 
My guess is that BB didn't stock every BB store because Apple refused to let BB do that...it's a brand new product line and Apple wanted a)all the sales and b)all the feedback/input first hand.

Or, it's also possible that BB, like many people, were skeptical about the Watch in the first place...and thus only chose some select stores.

I think it was probably both reasons but primarily Apple refusing to let BB have all the stores.
Regardless I see no reason why BB would be expanding the Watch to all stores if it wasn't selling. I swear if Tim Cook came out tomorrow and said Apple has sold 20M watches some people here wouldn't believe him and would come up with all sorts of theories as to how they could sell that many when nobody wants them. Because if someone on MR thinks the Watch is stupid that means everyone else does too.
 
The good news is Best Buy draws people that otherwise wouldn't go to an Apple Store.

The Bad News is unless it's a Best Buy in an affluent major metro city, the demographic of the average Best Buy customer is that of consumers than cannot afford an Apple Watch.

It's a Big Ticket item. If they're at Best Buy they're their to buy a Samsung Widescreen TV, a Refrigerator or XBOX. It's a family centric store.
 
Good for Apple... now let's hope BB trains their people on the product so they know how to sell it.

Obviously, there must be something right going on.
 
I would love to see numbers. There is so much noise out there about how well or badly the watch is doing. Apple's refusal to release numbers has made it difficult to gauge so all the pundits have filled in with opinions (which range from total failure to wild success). Maybe now we can get something from Best buy that gives us a more factual insight.

The fact that they expanded their plans to sell the watch from 300 stores to 1050 leads me to believe that it is selling better than Best Buy expected.
 
I think it should be cheaper, thinner, do less, and maybe be round.

edit: because it seems expensive, bloated, unnecessary, and ugly.
 
A lot.....if just 1% of America cared, you have 3,000,000 sold. Let's be realistic though, the percentage is much higher than that.
I'd say you're overestimating the market at 1%, but I have about as much reason to back that figure up as you do yours. To each their own.
 
"...Amid Strong Demand"

More like: "....Amid Fire Sale From Apple"

Apple probably is finding it's almost impossible to give these Watches away. Seriously. Sure, the Apple Fanboys all ran out and bought one (and many returned it)...but for the 95% of the population, there are plenty of reasons not to own the Watch.

You, uh, might want to go look up the definition of a fire sale.
 

... plans to accelerate support ...

He says "planning" and "accelerating"
Very much like being thrilled about "demand" and "potential"

So many relative words.

I plan to think about getting a divorce. I'm not married yet but I can already plan to think about.:p
 
Apple needs to post Apple Watch sales figures at iPhone release announcement or their comments that the watch is selling well will be met with scepticism.

I doubt they care that much. It makes money. Check box.
"...Amid Strong Demand"

More like: "....Amid Fire Sale From Apple"

Apple probably is finding it's almost impossible to give these Watches away. Seriously. Sure, the Apple Fanboys all ran out and bought one (and many returned it)...but for the 95% of the population, there are plenty of reasons not to own the Watch.

so why don't they lower the price? Wouldn't that make a more effective fire sale?
 
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Currently undergoing renovations at 740 locations in the United States are the Apple branded sections of Best Buy's retail stores,

"including new fixtures and more display tables for phones, computers, and tablets."



Article Link: Best Buy Accelerating Apple Watch Rollout to All 1,050 Stores Amid Strong Demand

Despite Apples investment in creating a special ... very large display area, including new display cases and lighting in everyone of their stores, it's the one area of the store that's dead whenever I've been in the three stores in my major metro city.

Positioned at the front of these very busy stores, people often are forced to stand in the area when waiting for a genius or training appointment.

Waiting there myself for a full 50 minutes, I deliberately looked around observing customers, it was an amazing experience to watch people come and go, walking by the AW display without even glancing at them.

If this is strong demand, perhaps the true sales take place in the alley behind the store :eek:
 
Everyone who hates, posts here.

Everyone else checks out the watch online, at Best Buy, at Apple Stores, and buys them.

Best Buy has access to actual sales data, or they wouldn't be buying in.

Haters have access to an online forum. That's all.

Nah, it's not just "haters" and bandwagoners. I'm all for the basic concept. But I'm in no hurry to jump on a first gen product. I fully expect to be wearing one of these a few years from now.
 
We'll see how this all goes over the next year. Regardless, some people are determined to poo-poo the watch no matter what, just because they like to feel that they were "right" all along. It's an ego thing.
I poo-poo the watch not because I want to see it fail, but because the effort and resources put into making something this useless should have been used to fix their current product line, both software and hardware. The Mac lineup is stale, iPhones are so hideous they require a case, the Apple TV's been forgotten about, and all devices (especially the iPad) are suffering from a serious lack of quality software. The little details I used to appreciate are no longer looked after. Product lineups are being split to the point they'll need to bring back the gross 5-digit alphanumeric names of the 90s.

Every move Apple has made in the past several years by the CEO bean counter has been to appease shareholders, not customers. You can argue businesses exist to maximize profits... But they're already #1 in the world. When is it enough? When can you take a step back and start caring about your products just a little? The endless pursuit of money will eventually cause any business to fail, because they lose sight of their roots: Building good products. As an Apple enthusiast, THIS is why I'm pissed.
 
To be fair they don't stock much watch accessories for any of the watches. **** is easy to steal, has a high resale value, makes them little profit, and the demand hasn't been high.
At the store my wife manages they lose more bands to theft than they sell. $50 for s band is oretty effing stupid anyway. You can get a dexent standalone watch for less than twice that, band and all.

Actually that is fair. Easy to steal. The watches were behind the "locked" shelf/case at both locations but not the bands.
 
Right...and I recall that Apple has likely sold less than 4 million watches in some older news articles. Again, it's a nice raw number that Apple sold a few million...sure...but as everyone stated before, Apple will sell a few million of anything they release simply because of the large population(s) and the Apple fans. But as a % of society? 5% is pretty sad. Granted it is year 1. But even still, what % of USA folks own a Mac? 15% on a great day...again, millions of units with nice margins but a minority of traditional desktop and laptop computers. iPhones of course are a much higher %.
I think with no real info available, we'll have to wait until Apple tells people something.
The category itself has it's issues, as some people do not like to wear watches (For example me) , but may do so when the watch does what the iPhone does now.

Wayyyyy too early to put doom and gloom onto a new product.
 
I understand what you're saying, but how many people do you think are that interested in their own health, to the point they'd plunk down money for this watch? Judging purely on obesity rates and the amount of junk food we ingest as a population, I don't see enough people caring.

(On a more personal note, I do appreciate the type of work you do, and honestly do hope that more people cared about their own health.)

You're correct, not enough do. I think the benefit of something like the Apple Watch is it will make health data easy to collect and then down the road, easy to send that data to a physician for analysis (if you opt-in). The idea is to lower the barrier to maintaining health. An example is checking blood sugar levels. A lot of people don't do it or don't do it enough because they don't like the pain of it. Take away the pain and a lot more people will be compliant. That's where the Apple Watch is going, or if it isn't should be going. I see a lot of other uses for people with various diseases - one example is tracking movement in Parkinson's disease.

People don't care but if Apple or Samsung or Microsoft or X company can make it easier for people to care or make caring rewarding enough that people will be motivated, then it's worth pursuing. That's where I see Apple going with this. The health industry is huge (I'm talking legitimate health industry, not whatever fads people follow at the moment) so Apple would be short-sighted to not tap into it.
 
I poo-poo the watch not because I want to see it fail, but because the effort and resources put into making something this useless should have been used to fix their current product line, both software and hardware. The Mac lineup is stale, iPhones are so hideous they require a case, the Apple TV's been forgotten about, and all devices (especially the iPad) are suffering from a serious lack of quality software. The little details I used to appreciate are no longer looked after. Product lineups are being split to the point they'll need to bring back the gross 5-digit alphanumeric names of the 90s.

Every move Apple has made in the past several years by the CEO bean counter has been to appease shareholders, not customers. You can argue businesses exist to maximize profits... But they're already #1 in the world. When is it enough? When can you take a step back and start caring about your products just a little? The endless pursuit of money will eventually cause any business to fail, because they lose sight of their roots: Building good products. As an Apple enthusiast, THIS is why I'm pissed.
 
If they could make it $100.00 with a $25.00 gift card I'd consider until then I wouldn't even consider unless they make it less bulky.
 
May I recommend you switch to the PC World to get unpissed?
I am always told they can do and have everything Apple has and more.
 
"...Amid Strong Demand"

More like: "....Amid Fire Sale From Apple"

Apple probably is finding it's almost impossible to give these Watches away. Seriously. Sure, the Apple Fanboys all ran out and bought one (and many returned it)...but for the 95% of the population, there are plenty of reasons not to own the Watch.

Hey Eric, you are all over the place. You say there is a "fire sale", but there is no evidence of discounting. You agree with another poster that you would never buy one in the future, but then one of your reasons is that it is a first generation product. Are you thinking this through? :D
 
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I have barely seen this device in the wild, if ever. Frankly, not only do I not have the urge to buy it, but I have now completely forgot about the product.

This thing has been a disaster. It's starting to get digs in influential media now too. That's not to say that any smart watch is a hit. None of them are, because they are currently pointless expensive devices with no clear exceptional function. Those who say otherwise must just be trying to justify their 500 dollar iPhone accessory.

When did you see your first iPhone? It was released in mid 2007, but I don't think I saw anyone with one until early 2009. By mid 2009, I owned my first.

I expect the Apple Watch will follow a similar trajectory, where nobody ever sees the first generation, they see someone who owns the second generation, and then they own the third generation.

Although I actually saw an Apple Watch in the wild ~3 months ago. It was the first and last one that I've seen outside an Apple Store... not on a person I knew, just saw it on a stranger across the room in a restaurant.
 
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