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Why? Because it didn't bring peace to the world?

What metric are you using? Is every single non-Apple smartphone a failure? Is any single non-Apple PC a failure? Is Surface a failure?

Why is the watch, that is doing better on the first quarter than any of those mentioned products, a failure?

Because you expected it to be something else? Or just bring more profit than the whole of Google?

No, what these people are thinking is that if it doesn't make sense for them, then it can't make sense to anyone else either.

Their argumentation is like this:
They don't like a product or don't see a point for it personally so it should not exist. If the product turns out to be successful anyway then all the users are Apple Sheep that are easily influenced by empty marketing hype. Whatever the outcome of success of the product, they will always find a reason to be right about this. Strengthening their opinion that they somehow must be smarter than anyone else here.
 
Android is a success for everyone, except for Google, even Microsoft makes more money off Android than Google!

Search engine, gmail, gmaps, YouTube, are all over 10 years old.

Newer products, like Google+, Google Glass, Google Code, Google Wave, Google Hangouts, Andeoid Wear, Google Wallet, Nest, Google Music, have been nothing more than failures so far, and certainly one can say that they changed nothing.

Is apple doing that much better recently? If you want to talk software and services, it's not going well at all. Most recent, music, is a disaster in regards to UI design, not to mention the service itself.
 
August 2015. I still haven't seen anyone wearing an Apple Watch in the real world, at least not here in Germany. I've only seen a fistful of smartwatches thus far, and nobody who wore one actually gave that device category a lot of credit or said that they couldn't imagine life without them. After all, these things are basically just smartphone extensions and do not provide anything that the smartphone couldn't do on its own.

I still have not seen anybody who could actually REPLACE a notebook with an iPad or any other tablet, and I still have not seen anybody who ever used his tablet/iPad for something other than playing casual games, reading an eBook or consuming music or movies or doing some "light" web surfing. Now the market for tablets is saturated and people have figured out that the new 2015 tablet is not any more useful than their old 2010 tablet. In other words, tablets are a fad that, as the drop in sales numbers indicates, is finally coming to an end.

Just as those Apple Watch health apps are a fad that won't last. People who need a gadget to make them pay attention to their own health will soon start getting annoyed by those nagging reminders and either ignore them or switch them off -- gadgets don't change the human nature, full stop. Tamagochis also were hip for a while, and those have disappeared a long time ago. Fads don't last.

I haven't seen an iPod in a long, long time, though - because smartphones have effectively killed their market niche and smartphones have become cheap commodity products. The iPod itself wasn't the big deal anyhow. The iTunes store behind it was what changed the game, because all of a sudden there was a relatively easy to use way to fill an mp3 player with legally obtained content without having to purchase a CD and rip it yourself (which, at the time, was also very time consuming). The store is still there. But now it's fueling smartphones instead of pure mp3 players.

The graphical user interface and smartphones were real game changers. They were actually useful and had a significant impact on our daily businesses and routines, and they opened the world of computing to non-technical people and made the Internet mobile. And smartphones, at least once in a while, can still be used to make a phone call. For a lot of people, that's a useful feature...

Truly useful things last - and don't need to be hyped to sell well.


Your whole post is about "I have not seen this or that". You do know that the planet does not revolve around your little German town or you, right?

What is useful or useless to you might not be useful or useless to anyone else.
 
Is apple doing that much better recently? If you want to talk software and services, it's not going well at all. Most recent, music, is a disaster in regards to UI design, not to mention the service itself.

Your opinion.

The UI and the service has been working perfectly fine for me now, and for more people. There were a few hiccups, iTunes needs to modernized, but it's running fine now.

But if Apple Music is not the flop that Google Play Music Acces, now renamed Google Music is... specially considering it comes pre-loaded on 80% of sold smartphones (the mentioned sucessful Android)

Apple gives access to the best content too, with more music, like Taylor's immensely popular album, the just released Compton album, and more to come...

Meanwhile on Google Music, what are the reasons unless you are Google fanboy? No quality human curation, no differentiation, more expensive, etc...


But what about iPad, Apple Watch, Apple Pay, how well are nexus tablets, android wear watches, or Google wallet doing?
 
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You seem to to live inside very small boundaries. I've seen some Apple watches already and waaayyyyy more iPads than MacBooks. The iPad is not a fad. The iPad was indeed a game changer but you don't buy one every year. Even Apple itself honored this fact buy selling the iPad 2 until last year.
The thing is you won't see a Computer-like device until you enter areas where these things are used. Go to a Universitiy Library or nearby lecture hall (or just the other office where the Apple geeks work you don't like :p) and you will see a lot more than at the bus stop nearby. Even in business the iPad is used regularly. Lots of people use them at home as well.

When Apple says "its all about the user experience" they don't state that a particular product is superior to others or replaces xy completely but they say "it just works" well together. You don't have to drink the cool aid to recognize that this is indeed true. The Apple ecosystem works well inside certain apple defined boundaries. If you want a product to be something it is not you won't be happy with your purchase. Just look at the new macbook. There are people complaining it is unusable for heavy photoshopping or video editing. Sure thing. Its not designed to be an editing rig. For the writing journalists instead it is great because it does have enough power for their demands.

I hope I could broaden your view on things a bit. I know your here for a long time now but maybe your just to focused on your special needs.
 
I live in NYC and saw my first person wearing an Apple Watch. I went up to them and asked how'd they like it? She actually paused for a moment, looked at her watch and said "meh". No joke. So I pressed on and asked, is it cool? Does it do cool things? To which she unenthusiastically replied, "Well, it tells me when I have a call or get a text."

Yikes.
 
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It is one really well made smart watch. Though I have to admit I hated the leather band, on what planet is that leather.... At first I thought it was symphetic

As supposedly the "greenest" tech company on the planet, Apple really shouldn't be offering any product made from leather.
 
and I still have not seen anybody who ever used his tablet/iPad for something other than playing casual games, reading an eBook or consuming music or movies or doing some "light" web surfing.

I can't remember the last time I saw someone using a laptop to do anything other than the above tasks. Honestly it must have been about 3 or 4 years ago, and most of the people I'm thinking of work in technology. Now, I'm not saying they never did anything "productive", its just that I haven't seen it happen in all that time.
 
Get off this thread, you're making way too much sense to post on MacRumors. :p

Best Buy eh?...

... The watch is still a failure.
Your whole post is about "I have not seen this or that". You do know that the planet does not revolve around your little German town or you, right?

What is useful or useless to you might not be useful or useless to anyone else.

Looks like the UK is also a little German town too then. Your dismissive reply assumes because the Apple Watch is big in your country means it MUST be big elswhere cos Tim says so. 'Fact is I haven't seen one person with or one person who knows another person with an Apple Watch. So that means both myself and the person you're slagging off must live in "towns" with extremely non-tech-savvy people and/or are just plain stupid. Or is there a teensy weensy possibility that the Apple Watch could be the white elephant it always was? No! Of course not. It wasn't your own blinkered subjective outlook at all. It was 'the others' who just didn't realise they actually needed the obsolete clunky old wrist-weight all along. Possibly. :)
 
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August 2015. I still haven't seen anyone wearing an Apple Watch in the real world, at least not here in Germany. I've only seen a fistful of smartwatches thus far, and nobody who wore one actually gave that device category a lot of credit or said that they couldn't imagine life without them. After all, these things are basically just smartphone extensions and do not provide anything that the smartphone couldn't do on its own.

I still have not seen anybody who could actually REPLACE a notebook with an iPad or any other tablet, and I still have not seen anybody who ever used his tablet/iPad for something other than playing casual games, reading an eBook or consuming music or movies or doing some "light" web surfing. Now the market for tablets is saturated and people have figured out that the new 2015 tablet is not any more useful than their old 2010 tablet. In other words, tablets are a fad that, as the drop in sales numbers indicates, is finally coming to an end.

Just as those Apple Watch health apps are a fad that won't last. People who need a gadget to make them pay attention to their own health will soon start getting annoyed by those nagging reminders and either ignore them or switch them off -- gadgets don't change the human nature, full stop. Tamagochis also were hip for a while, and those have disappeared a long time ago. Fads don't last.

I haven't seen an iPod in a long, long time, though - because smartphones have effectively killed their market niche and smartphones have become cheap commodity products. The iPod itself wasn't the big deal anyhow. The iTunes store behind it was what changed the game, because all of a sudden there was a relatively easy to use way to fill an mp3 player with legally obtained content without having to purchase a CD and rip it yourself (which, at the time, was also very time consuming). The store is still there. But now it's fueling smartphones instead of pure mp3 players.

The graphical user interface and smartphones were real game changers. They were actually useful and had a significant impact on our daily businesses and routines, and they opened the world of computing to non-technical people and made the Internet mobile. And smartphones, at least once in a while, can still be used to make a phone call. For a lot of people, that's a useful feature...

Truly useful things last - and don't need to be hyped to sell well.

It's sucks actually if you see many Apple Watch.. same watches as your.

I will be happy if I'm the only one have it.
 
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I can't remember the last time I entered a Best Buy or radio shak or hhrgregg. With deals on the Internet for electronics, I am surprised that these stores are still around. Oh, at least one of my mentions is not, so maybe the others are on their way.

Anyway to jump into the fray of other comments. I love my watch, it was ridiculously expensive, but that does not change that I get value out of it. My wife loves hers. And the other five people I know that own an Apple Watch, all say positive things. So to the naysayers I say this, your only valid point is the price thing... And yet I have no regrets about the money my wife and I spent. Go figure.
 
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I'm not sure it even goes that deep! :)

Well some like Winni do a lot of thinking, but all their thoughts are based on the notion that they are the center of reason in an otherwise mad universe, never even considering that there might be people that have different preferences than they do. By definition, anyone that likes or does something that doesn't conform to their version of logic must be mad, stupid or an Apple sheep.
 
I live in NYC and saw my first person wearing an Apple Watch. I went up to them and asked how'd they like it? She actually paused for a moment, looked at her watch and said "meh". No joke. So I pressed on and asked, is it cool? Does it do cool things? To which she unenthusiastically replied, "Well, it tells me when I have a call or get a text."

Yikes.
Somebody I know just bought a new s63. I asked how they liked it and got the response it's okay, it doesn't do anything my accord didn't. Really. So people have all sorts of opinions!
 
Here come the discounts lol Apple watch not selling in Apple stores. I would never buy this watch it's way too thick.
 
I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't thinking of getting the AW.

Anyone knows the possibility of when the 2nd gen would arrive?
Probably will have saved a few bucks to get it's SS version. :)
 
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