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Some funny comments here (as always).

Many obviously are unaware that this "store within store" model is how it has been done in many Asian countries since, well, forever. It is not uncommon to walk into the Best Buy equivalent in, say China, and find these mini "stores" inside with a rep specific to each brand. Want a samsung tv? There is a rep for that! Want a rice cooker (same brick and mortar store)? There is also a rep for that!

This "Samsung doesn't have original ideas" sentiment is getting tiresome, no? Especially when it is backed with such ignorance. Samsung has been doing this for YEARS. Just not in the US. Apple proved the sales model is works in the US too. So Samsung is willing to do the same. Simple. On a slightly tangental point, why isn't Ford (or Ford fans) constantly whining that their assembly line idea has been used by so many companies to make big bucks? Oh, wait, that would be ludicrous right?

As far as best Buy is concerned, they make almost nothing on Apple products. Apple demands over 95% of the retail value on most items, while other companies often hover around 50-60%. I was actually shocked to see Apple's lightning cable costs Best Buy around $15. That means Apple demands only 75% of that retail. Best I have seen on an Apple product thus far. The way Best Buy makes cash on Apple is that it gets people through the doors, especially in areas where an Apple store may be quite a drive away. Ever notice a stronger push for additional warranty coverages or accessories when you are buying Apple stuff? That's because if they don't sell you something else, they probably just lost money on you. Samsung is a different story. Best Buy actually makes a good chunk of cash (in terms of percentage markup) on the majority of their products. It doesn't hurt that their products now are ALSO getting people through the doors (read: people actually WANT it). Making money on a product while drawing customers simultaneously is always better than just getting the customer.
 
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Did Apple really invent everything? LOL:p

iPhone: Combination of PDA (have long been forgotten I know) with a 3G calling chipset, did Apple invent PDA in the first place?

iPad: Resized iPod Touch, iPod Touch = PDA to be honest

Mac: Typical Intel-equipped computer with OSX installed, only iMac may have been Apple's original idea.

Apple Store: what's the difference between Apple store and flagship retail stores of other brands?

Thus what Apple have done in these ten years is get inspiration from various of established products and optimize them to "Apple standards":D

However, I am not saying Apple products are bad or anything, they are good but just not all originally invented by Apple.
 
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They did? :eek:

Yes, any retailer that uses table, or the color black , or wood , or sells computers needs to be taken to court! ;)

The Apple store within a store is hardly original, as far as tech companies goes..,

Bose....Sony ...... Gateway ..... Dell,..,, HP.... Samsung even ...... Tandy...., Nintendo...sega.... I could go on and on. , al came before apple even had 1 store, let alone a store in store pen
 
Seriously kid, I manage hundreds of mobile devices in an enterprise. Most of them iPad and iPhones, some android. When an iPad or iPhone breaks, I get it replaced in an hour by taking it to the apple store. When an android breaks, which is way too often, it takes weeks.

Maybe your not a good IT manager :confused: ?
 
When Apple touted their panoramic camera feature on the 5, something I had on my Android phone three years ago, no one screamed that they were copying Android.

Seriously people without competition there would be no innovation. You should be grateful other OS exists.

How many of you Iphone owners would consider another OS if it weren't for all the money you've spent on apps or all the music you bought on Itunes.
Apple has you by the balls.

Also you have to admit that some of these Android phones are interesting and that the specs are better.

I had every Iphone except the 5. Currently I have a Nexus 4 and am waiting delivery of a Sony ZL.

BTW I'm pretty sure Apple didn't invent the mobile phone.

yawn...

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Yes, any retailer that uses table, or the color black , or wood , or sells computers needs to be taken to court! ;)

The Apple store within a store is hardly original, as far as tech companies goes..,

Bose....Sony ...... Gateway ..... Dell,..,, HP.... Samsung even ...... Tandy...., Nintendo...sega.... I could go on and on. , al came before apple even had 1 store, let alone a store in store pen

you don't even understand what a store within a store is...

hint* it isn't a product booth.

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Apple deserves credit for creating an elegant phone with a large (at the time) and vibrant capacitive screen, multitouch, gesture UI, smooth media playback, capable browser, flat mini-tablet form factor, and a central app store. Some of those features existed on different devices, but before the iPhone there was nothing that combined all of them. It drastically changed the smartphone market, and Samsung's Galaxy devices are derived from the iPhone (so much so that I think Samsung deserved to lose that lawsuit).

Having written that, Samsung deserves credit for pushing the envelope. No one else has their screen-area to footprint and screen-area to weight ratios. So though Samsung copied Apple, they also beat Apple at their own game, while also offering removable batteries and expandable batteries in devices that are still light and pocketable but have significantly bigger screens (that are even more vibrant than Apple's).

And Samsung deserves credit for bringing the stylus back to handheld computers by making it work well with the Note series' capacitive screen. Personally I find the Note a bit too large, and I don't find its stylus especially useful, but there's no question it's been a successful product.

I disagree with the implication that Apple's decline is tied to the passing of Steve Jobs. He underestimated the appeal that larger phones would have. Apple should've released the iPhone5 two years sooner, and a 5" model last year. As it, the iPhone5 was (literally) too little too late.

a larger screen to fit a larger battery for a time where they needed more processors to deliver an acceptable level of OS performance thus draining more battery capacity and in turn leads to the need for a larger battery and to fit a larger battery - make the screen bigger.

lol...

IMO, a bigger screen isn't an 'innovation' but merely a lazy way to solve their technical limitations.

great marketing though to turn that into a 'feature'
 
yawn...

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you don't even understand what a store within a store is...

hint* it isn't a product booth.

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a larger screen to fit a larger battery for a time where they needed more processors to deliver an acceptable level of OS performance thus draining more battery capacity and in turn leads to the need for a larger battery and to fit a larger battery - make the screen bigger.

lol...

IMO, a bigger screen isn't an 'innovation' but merely a lazy way to solve their technical limitations.

great marketing though to turn that into a 'feature'

I dont think anybody considers a big screen "innovation" :) but nice to have.

Will you mind telling us what is a "store within store" according to you ?
 
you don't even understand what a store within a store is...

What is a store in a store then? Remember the Gateway stores in Office maxes with the cow hide styled floor? Full of just gateway products? With a gateway employee to inform you about products?

Even a place for supprt and repair on sight?

Just a product booth. Meaningless. Right?

Maybe most people on this forum don't realize that OEMs like HP and Dell had store in stores that offered everything from product purchase to support and repair. And the people in those stores were much better trained and educated than anyone in a Best Buy or Apple Store.
It was a time when computers were really expensive, back in the early 90s a low end Packard bell, the budget brand at the time easily ran more than s rMBP

I remember the cheapest 486s from Packard bell going for 3 grand
 
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I've been to BB and asked a guy wearing a Samsung shirt if I could buy a proprietary Samsung cord there.

Nope.

Waste of time if they don't even carry their own bloody products. Or does this mean they finally will? Not holding my breath. I have a couple Samsung products....basically they are dead ends. If anything breaks, throw it away and buy a new one is their plan.

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Do you have to fly to Korea for technical support for Samsung products at the moment?

Not sure they have it there, either.

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Along with Subway. I've been seeing more and more of them in Wal-Marts recently.

That's why they're the number 2 fast food chain in the world. McDonald's innovates, Subway steals.

Actually, Subway is the number one franchiser in the world. Which is what you're discussing. So...
 
Yes, many - The Note II stylus, S4 screen, NFC, wireless charging, eye tracking software, Samsung TV's, DVD's, surround systems ...... Shall I go on or would you like to continue ignoring competitor accomplishments?

IDK if anyone else commented, but none of those were Samsung original ideas.

Stylus....you didn't really say that? Writing was invented before the land known as Korea was discovered
screen....they all have screens
NFC...conglomerate, but let's call it Nokia for short (unless you want to say RFID was the original, but still not Samsung)
wireless charging....I'd LIKE to say Tesla (the man, not car company or rock band), but there were efforts even before him
eye tracking....Canon (actually, there was stuff before theirs)
TVs...really?
DVD....Sony/Philips mainly, Samsung not even in the group
Surround....Disney
 
Did Apple really invent everything? LOL:p

YES! you should really spend some time reading into computer history. Apple, over the last 30 years, has invented a great number of technologies.

iPhone: Combination of PDA (have long been forgotten I know) with a 3G calling chipset, did Apple invent PDA in the first place?

The first true PDA was the Apple Newton. The ARM chip, as we know it today, was a joint Apple / Acorn project.
ARM holdings


Apple Newton

iPad: Resized iPod Touch, iPod Touch = PDA to be honest

As above...

Mac: Typical Intel-equipped computer with OSX installed, only iMac may have been Apple's original idea.

Macs have been around for 30 years. First they run on the 68K architecture, then on PPC and since 2006 on intel. No one knows what CPU architecture they'll adapt next.
Apple Invented the modern laptop form factor among other things. Powerbook

Apple also make their own OS and their own consumer and pro Application suites. Can you say the same about DELL, HP, Samsung? ...NO!

Apple Store: what's the difference between Apple store and flagship retail stores of other brands?

They took the retail experience of the upmarket fashion and automotive brands and adopted it to the needs of the tech industry. Much like the old computer clubs of the 70s and 80s, Apple is using their stores to run seminars, they customise/upgrade/repair your system and they will help you every step of way in utilising your system to its maximum potential. They offer an unparalleled retail experience.

Thus what Apple have done in these ten years is get inspiration from various of established products and optimize them to "Apple standards":D

Apple is the tech industry's major innovator and this is impossible to overlook. ...you must be tech illiterate.
 
Whatever be the reason, every person that doesn't buy an Apple product is that much less money in Apple's pocket. That can only be a good thing :D:D:D
 
This just freaks me out...

Its just like OfficeWorks..

Everything under one large roof..... (and in Samsung's case, it must be large"

*prepare to spend the next 24 hours going from one side to the other*

You'll get hone my dinner :)
 
I am a apple fan. I have everything apple but I also have a note 2 and some of the things people say here makes them look like complete idiots. iPhone feature wise is slacking compared to Samsung. Apple needs to step it up.

Some of you please wake up.
 
My guess is, who here wants to loose the most amount of money .... ? Amiga or Samsung.... .....

Its Samsung in the lead, and Apple following closely... ..........

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Going into the same sort of pathetic area of "not being original"

Microsoft did this, and now Samsung.......... Nokia and Motorola is probably will come eventually too...... :p Why not,, lets all join in...

Every other manufacture has.


Tell me..... How can you be rivals with a company that you love soo much enough to make their screens ?

Even this baffles me.
 
My guess is, who here wants to loose the most amount of money .... ? Amiga or Samsung.... .....

Its Samsung in the lead, and Apple following closely... ..........

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Going into the same sort of pathetic area of "not being original"

Microsoft did this, and now Samsung.......... Nokia and Motorola is probably will come eventually too...... :p Why not,, lets all join in...

Every other manufacture has.


Tell me..... How can you be rivals with a company that you love soo much enough to make their screens ?

Even this baffles me.

Because samsung mobile could care less ? You do know its a separate division right ?
 
I hope they can demo the New SAMSUNG SBD-970C Dynamic Digital Bidet Toilet Seat + Remote Control.

Imagine a crapper with a Samsung seat. What genius these Koreans have ... :p
 
I'd love to see fistfights between the Best Buy Apple sales reps versus the Best Buy Samsung sales reps.

Death match inside Best Buy!

Apple Sales Rep Brawler: "I will use my special Jade Apple Dragon technique! You are no match for me!"

Samsung Sales Rep Brawler: "Oh yeah?! Well... I'll use my.... Jade Apple Drag... err oops... I mean my Emerald Samsung Dragon Lightning Kick maneuver! I will slay you!"
 
I love my Mac just like any other person on here but I gotta admit Samsung is doing a pretty good job with marketing.

They are doing exactly what Jobs said: Good artists copy but great artists steal.
 
I thought Samsung already had this? There are dedicated Samsung kiosks at my local Best Buy. I don't see anyone every standing around them though. Just like I never see anyone playing around with tablets other than iPads.
 
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