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Apple has continued to dominate the tablet market with the iPad despite a number of high-profile competitors having pushed out their own devices over the past year. Even as some studies have shown Android and other operating systems beginning to eat into Apple's dominant position, most of those studies have been based on shipments into the distribution channels and not sales to end users.

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Several reports have indicated that despite shipping hundreds of thousands or even millions of tablets, many of Apple's competitors are not seeing consumer interest in their products and thus the devices are sitting on store shelves and in warehouses and not making their way into users' hands. One of the most telling pieces of data comes in a new report from AllThingsD, which has learned that of the approximately 270,000 units of HP's highly-promoted TouchPad shipped out to Best Buy's distribution channels, only about 25,000 have been sold to customers.
According to one source who's seen internal HP reports, Best Buy has taken delivery of 270,000 TouchPads and has so far managed to sell only 25,000, or less than 10 percent of the units in its inventory.

A second person who has seen Best Buy's TouchPad sales figures confirmed the results as "consistent with what I've seen," and went so far as to say that 25,000 sold might be "charitable." This source suggested that the 25,000-unit sales number may not account for units that consumers return to stores for a refund.
Best Buy is said to be so unhappy with the lack of momentum on TouchPad sales that it has asked HP to take many of the unsold units back, but HP is reportedly "pleading" with Best Buy to remain patient. HP recently slashed $100 off of the price of the TouchPad in attempt to spur sales and is hoping that the move will turn things around, dropping pricing on the entry-level 16 GB model to $399.99. HP's price cut may not be having the desired effect, however, as reports coming in from retailers suggest that consumers are continuing to hold off in hopes that prices drop even further.

For its part, Apple has repeatedly noted that it is selling nearly every iPad it can make, pushing out over 9 million iPads last quarter alone. It was only earlier this month that Apple's online stores dropped their shipping estimates on new iPad 2 orders to "within 24 hours", indicating that Apple has finally caught up with demand five months after launch.

Article Link: Best Buy Seeing HP TouchPad Sell-Through Rate of Under 10%
 

King Flamez1

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the iPad is just snappier, it "just works"

I haven't seen 1 other tablet computer be nearly as snappy and efficient at what it does than the iPad
 
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jonnysods

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Know what I miss?

Hardware speculation rumors. I don't see a lot of those anymore, this is becoming a news site.

Where are the wild guesses??? :)
 
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For its part, Apple has repeatedly noted that it is selling nearly every iPad it can make, pushing out over 9 million iPads last quarter alone. It was only earlier this month that Apple's online stores dropped their shipping estimates on new iPad 2 orders to "within 24 hours", indicating that Apple has finally caught up with demand five months after launch.
Apple has not caught up with demand.

The international rollout of the iPad 2 is not yet complete nor is the iPad 2 offered in all markets that want it (same with the iPhone).

Only after the iPhone and iPad are sold in all of the markets that the iPods are sold in -- with no availability issues -- could one state that Apple has caught up with demand.
 
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Naimfan

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People are voting, as usual, with their wallets . . .

HP et al should be trying to come up with the next eco-system instead of trying to compete in a system that one company invented and has set the effective rules for.
 
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Xenomorph

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These were $499. Now they are $399.

There is about $199-$249 worth of tablet here. iPads are worth $399-$499. Not these.

HP's tablet isn't in the same league as the iPad, so it shouldn't be priced similarly to one.
You can get a Nook Color refurb for $169-$199 (and a Netbook for $249). Why would anyone spend $399 on the HP tablet that can't do what all its competition can do?
 
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and the beat goes on-it's been an amazing ten years and should be interesting what the next ten will bring...
 
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Cynicalone

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I tried using the Touchpad in 3 different Best Buys here. And the demo units just don't work that well. Very slow and unresponsive, very few apps installed. It just doesn't give you a very good impression. When asking Best Buy employees about the Touchpad they don't recommend it. They always recommend the Samsung Tab 10.1 and the iPad 2.
 
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cere

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HP was the worst possible company to buy Palm and expect to do something innovative in the consumer space. There are lot of good things about webOS and even the TouchPad, but buying a HP TouchPad would be like getting tongue from your grandmother...they just aren't right together.

Apple could have snapped them up and gained their massive patent portfolio. Heck, RIM could have taken them and merged the strengths of RIM and the BB with the sexiness of webOS. Instead, grandma tongue.
 
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gkarris

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Too bad for HP.

Out of all the "other Pads" I've tried at the store, the HP one is the best, but not enough Apps....

Everyone else seems to be a day late and a dollar short... (too expensive as far as value - I ended up with an iPad just because I'd have to spend $50 in buying Apps over again for Android if I didn't).
 
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idk maybe its just my area but i havent seen any iPad shortcomings in stores either, lots of boxes on their shelves
 
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AppleDroid

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WebOS was like a utopian idea of a mobile/tablet OS that failed to deliver again and again. They had multiple shots at making it a feasible option but just cannot make it happen.
 
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me2000

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An average consumer would never pick the HP over the Apple tablet if the price difference is only $0-100 between the two. The iPad is the must have, "hot" item out today. Most people have no idea what a TouchPad is.
 
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HarryKeogh

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I'd be too scared to buy an HP TouchPad because who knows if it'll be around in a year or two.

Consumers know there will be support and new apps for their iPads and Android tablets years down the road.
 
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conigs

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I'm actually a little saddened by this. When HP announced it was acquiring Palm, I was excited for the prospect of a WebOS tablet. I feel next to iOS, it has the most legs. To bad it's not gaining traction (with developers and consumers alike).
 
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chrmjenkins

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That's a shame because webOS does a lot of things right when it isn't being slow. It has the best notification system out there, IMO for instance.
 
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res1233

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An average consumer would never pick the HP over the Apple tablet if the price difference is only $0-100 between the two. The iPad is the must have, "hot" item out today. Most people have no idea what a TouchPad is.

I think the TouchPad has something to do with sex. It kinda sounds like it.
 
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AppleDroid

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That's a shame because webOS does a lot of things right when it isn't being slow. It has the best notification system out there, IMO for instance.

WebOS is a fantastic platform in general but Palm, now HP, just cannot figure out how to:

1. Make it run as smoothly as iOS devices.
2. Get developers on board which then bring more consumers
3. Market anything to save their life
 
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mdelvecchio

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not surprised. IMO, the only reason Android handsets made in roads was because:

1) they were available on non-AT&T carriers
2) promos such as BOGO
3) cheaper than iphones

...none of these conditions exist in the tablet market. as a result, non-iOS tablets are struggling. IMO.
 
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Young Spade

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I tried using the Touchpad in 3 different Best Buys here. And the demo units just don't work that well. Very slow and unresponsive, very few apps installed. It just doesn't give you a very good impression. When asking Best Buy employees about the Touchpad they don't recommend it. They always recommend the Samsung Tab 10.1 and the iPad 2.

That's the problem. The people who set these things up are, for the most part, ignorant. They aren't true nerds.

I used to (and still do when I'm out) walk into Att and just HELP people when they come in. For no reason. Because I like doing it. That's why I have over 1000 posts here. I love helping people (when they're talking about tech, never fixing though ;) )

Best Buy hires whoever they see as qualified and not the "best" people for the job. The last time I went, one Xoom tablet didn't turn on, one did (after finding out where the damn button was lol), the Acer tablet was in the back/side after all the netbooks, the BlackBerry tablet was frozen, and the iPad was with the Macs off in its own space of "awesome" with the 12 foot wall with a glowing apple and the wooden table and all of that.

Point is, they aren't getting a good presentation. NObody going into the Best Buy I went into would buy any of those tablets. If it isn't in the front, it isn't important. If it isn't flashy, it isn't good. That's how people think.

But I haven't used one yet; I would love to try it out, however, tablets aren't really my thing, that's why I don't have one.
 
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chrmjenkins

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WebOS is a fantastic platform in general but Palm, now HP, just cannot figure out how to:

1. Make it run as smoothly as iOS devices.
2. Get developers on board which then bring more consumers
3. Market anything to save their life

Well, the russel brand/glee girl advertisements are practically the old spice commercials compared to the creepy chick ads Palm did for the Pre in 2009.
 
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Piggie

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No matter how much Apple is great, I think this is Sad, and which Apple had bought Palm and expanded on PalmOS for tablets.

HP are not going to go anywhere with it, and it's such a shame that it's going to be lost.
 
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